Travis from Wyndonham 1825 birth

[fred59]

Oh dear i seem to have  got the dates mixed up a bit , but i am sure you see what i am getting at ;

         every little helps.
           Gordon

[otters]

Sorry to but in on this but I wondered if Pete was related to the Travis family from the Pontefract area.   

My uncle married into the Travis family and I am trying to help his son find his ancestors. I have a bit of information but it would be good to find more for him.

Thanks.

[Pete T]

Sorry to but in on this but I wondered if Pete was related to the Travis family from the Pontefract area.   

Not that I'm aware of, but as it is a relatively unusual name (in the UK at least) there will be some common roots somewhere.
My own Travises come from the Sheffield, Doncaster area (not very far away from Pontefract), but just to confuse matters my partner also has strong Travis ancestry. But her's come from the Liverpool area -and (back on theme) family legend says that there is a strong (protestant) Irish connection, although I have yet to trace it.
Sue, do you have any links to the family?

[thylacene]

Many thanks to all for their input! I do appreciate everybodys efforts. Its so difficult to track down info from Oz. Even with the internet we are still Isolated.
The "Irish" theory may be a good one as he married another convict "Ellen Dempsey" who was from County Carlow in Ireland.
Pete, a closer look of the convict records with both magnifying glass & a "Scan & Zoom"  gives the trial location as "Norfolk Assizes". Not sure how that works in with "Norwich"

Happy Easter to you all!

[Pete T]

Got it!!!!!
The trial was held on Wednesday March 27th 1844 at the Lent Assizes held in Norwich. (March 25th was the opening of the session). The case is reported in the Saturday March 30th edition of the Norfolk Chronicle exactly as follows:

SHEEP STEALING. -Robert Drake and Thomas Travers [not in the calendar] were indicted for having stolen, on the 10th of March, a sheep, the property of Mr. Matthews, of Wymondham. -Mr Evans prosecuted, and Mr W.Cooper defended the prisoner Drake. -The sheep was taken away, killed, and the skin and part of the carcase were found in a field belonging to Mr Atkins. Some mutton fat and bones were found in Drake's house; also some mutton in a chest, wrapped in a handkerchief.The bones were found to correspond with the part of the carcase found in the field; and the shoes of the prisoners fitted impressions which were made in and from the field. -Guilty. To be transported ten years.

Note the different spelling of Travis.
The only Robert Drake from Wymondham lived in White Horse Street, his father was a publican -and if it is the same one, he was 14 at the time of the offense (you could check the convict records). White Horse Street is about half a mile  yards from the railway station -but what is just as fascinating for me is that it is at the end of the road where I live.
The Atkins farm appears to have been at Coston, which is about 5 miles away from Wymondham, but again is about half a mile away from the railway line. Haven't tracked down Mr Matthews, but it is still common practice to graze your sheep on someone else's land. March is of course lambing time.
There is a Thomas Travers of the right age in the 1841 census, recorded as staying in what appear to be slum dwellings called "Peerless Place" in the seediest part of Shoreditch London. Interestingly he has no place of birth recorded and his occupation is given as (I think) MS whatever that means. As some of the the women are given as FS, the M presumably stands for male. Anyone any idea what the S stands for??
Anyway, hope that all helps. I've got a scan of the court report if you'd like it.
Best wishes,
Pete

[thylacene]

Pete,

 Your a legend!!
Many thanks for the effort you have put in. I would love a copy of the court report if its not too much trouble. I will PM you my email address.
I have always tried to convince my wife that I am decendant from high class stock! this proves it!
What a coincidence that Robert Drake lived so close to your current address!
I will track down Robert Drakes convict records and if you are interested I can foward them to you.
Once again  many thanks for your efforts.

cheers

Mike

[thylacene]

Hi Pete,

Good chance your "kid from down the road" is the Robert Drake of sheep napping fame i guess. I am going to send away to Tasmania for his convict records. When I get them I'll foward you a copy.
Only details I have at the moment are that he was Transported on the same ship as Thomas Travis. The Barossa which departed may 17 1844.

While a convict, he requested permission to marry 3 times, Dec 1847, Jan 1849 & May 1849.
Always to the same girl, a Mary Anne Alfred who was a convict from Dublin interned at the "Female Factory" in Hobart, a miserable place which I have visited in the past.

From what I can gather, all requested were refused by convict board but will get more info from records.

cheers

Mike

[Bee]

. Interestingly he has no place of birth recorded and his occupation is given as (I think) MS whatever that means. As some of the the women are given as FS, the M presumably stands for male. Anyone any idea what the S stands for??
Anyway, hope that all helps. I've got a scan of the court report if you'd like it.
Best wishes,
Pete.

On the 1841 census, MS = male servant and FS = female servant

Bee

[thylacene]

Pete,
dont hold your breath for the Convict records.
Have been told by Tasmanian Archives that there is a 10 week delay!