Frustrated Sutherland Seeks Sutherlands

[ostler]

This "new" William and Jane, both descendants of William and Ann, are on my list of Mulbuie Sutherlands, but who's to say that they're correct? The fact that Jane died at Knockally suggests she's from my lot.

I've never heard of any of these places, but I think it's safe to say Bad Bhae is Badbea.

Do you have access to the censuses? It might be beneficial to find out where this Jane (m John Sutherland) and William (m Janet Sutherland) etc were staying. It they're at Balnabruich or Knockally, then they're probably my lot. If you don't have access, I'll probably need to go back to NRH, or perhaps someone else will be kind enough to help out?

[JenClark]

Good point mate, checking the census data would give you more clues.

Unfortunately I don't have access at the moment otherwise I'd be onto it!

Perhaps you should post the scottish census lookups you need (William, Jane, Margaret x 2, Robert & Adam or any other ones you have certain death dates for) seperately with a link to this thread, so it pops up as a new topic?

Fingers crossed hey 

Jen

[JenClark]

Just checked my ordinance survey maps of the area and there is an Achastle between Swiney Hill and Burrigill just off the road from Latheron to Lybster (north of Latheron) 

[JenClark]

Or perhaps more likely, this Achastle (another name for Langwell Castle)

http://www.rcahms.gov.uk/pls/portal/newcanmore.details_gis?inumlink=8071

http://www.caithness.org/caithness/castles/achastle/index.htm

As later on Neil Sutherland is having a child there too 

Possibly a child of Neil's... entry was unfinished, or they hadn't chosen a name!

Niel Sutherland Achastle, Berriedale, had a child named ... (13 May 1812)

So I would deduce from this that Adam (bap Achastle) and Robert (bap Cairn of Berriedale) are your family  as Neil is also in the same area later.....

Jen

[JenClark]

Can't find a Lower Millary.....but Millary is described as part of Latheron in other baptisms on the net....so possibly Lower Millary was near there?

But I honestly think that Latheron is too far from Berriedale (if indeed your family were there) to have baptised a child in April 1777 in Berriedale and one in Feb 1777 in Latheron. So I don't think this Margaret is yours 

[JenClark]

Checked FreeCEN

and this looks like Adam Sutherland in 1841:

Houstry, Latheron

SUTHERLAND Adam M 70yrs Caithness           
SUTHERLAND Elizabeth F 70yrs Caithness           
SUTHERLAND William M 5yrs Caithness

And 1851 - Burnside, Latheron

SUTHERLAND Adam Head    W M    82yrs Pauper Farmer Caithness - Latheron   

And possibly Robert?    

1841 - Houstry, Latheron

SUTHERLAND Robert M 60yrs Farmer Caithness           
SUTHERLAND Janet F 60yrs Caithness           
SUTHERLAND Catherine F 35yrs Caithness           
SUTHERLAND William M 25yrs Caithness           
SUTHERLAND Robert M 20yrs Caithness

[JenClark]

A possible of FreeCEN for Jane Sutherland and John Sutherland

1851 - Hillhead, Latheron

SUTHERLAND John Head M M 68yrs Merchant (Grocer,Clothier &c) Caithness - Badharigo           
SUTHERLAND Jane Wife M F 63yrs -  Caithness - Berridale Latheron           
SUTHERLAND Patrick Son U M 21yrs Clerk Caithness - Lybster Latheron           
SUTHERLAND William Grnson U M 14yrs Scholar Caithness - Lybster Latheron           
MACGRIGOR Janet Niece U F 31yrs - Caithness - Latheron Disability: Blind    
GUNN Alexander Visitr W   M 46yrs Travelling Hawker Caithness - Braemore?   
SUTHERLAND Alexander -    U M   25yrs Labourer Caithness - Osclay Latheron           
SUTHERLAND Marjory - U   F 24yrs House Servant Caithness - Roster Latheron           
MACKAY Hugh - U M 13yrs Errand Boy Caithness - Achavar Latheron

or more likely......

1851 - Knockally, Berriedale, Latheron

SUTHERLAND John Head M M 57yrs   Crofter 1 & One Half Acre Land Caithness - Latheron           
SUTHERLAND Jane Wife M F 57yrs -  Caithness - Latheron           
SUTHERLAND Jane Dau U   F 20yrs Hemp Spinner Caithness - Latheron           
SUTHERLAND John Son U   M 17yrs Fisher    Caithness - Latheron           
SUTHERLAND Neil Son - M 10yrs Scholar Caithness - Latheron           
SUTHERLAND Janet Grndau - F    4yrs    - Caithness - Watten   

I'm seeing another Neil     

[ostler]

You say that Berriedale is too far from Latheron, but there you have "Knockally, Berriedale, Latheron". I've always seen Knockally/Balnabruich together, but never Knockally and Berriedale!

When you get on a roll like this I get confused by the mass of information, so I might just come back to it later. Always advisable to take a break. But yes I think I will make a census look-up thread as you advised.

PS: I appreciate all your help, btw, the offer of looking up stuff at NRH is still open to you.

[JenClark]

Yeah sorry, I do tend to get carried away sometimes 

As for Knockally, Berriedale, Latheron (was just transcribing it directly from the census), I meant that the town of Latheron is a fair way from Berriedale....but they are both in Latheron parish 

Get back to me when you have had time to digest it all! And I'll have a look to see if there is anything I need from NRH.