USA: Tasney

[skyetrekker]

I am working on a riddle that is part of my family history from Northern Ireland to Paterson NJ back to England.

Samuel  (J. or G.) Tasney, I believe, is the eldest son of Samuel Tasney of Belfast.  His birthday is about 1857.  He must have left NJ to live in London and I found him working in "rice mills?" married to Margaret from Killarse (County Clare).  They had children Marion, Frederick C., James H., Mary A. and Samuel.
 
Frederick was born in Edinburgh, Scotland and the census says that the later children were born in Kent (Plumstead & Charleston).  Also, I found that they were members of the Holy Trinity Parish in Woolrich. 

If anyone knows of this family or line and how they came to move from the US to England after their parents emigrated to  the US, I would appreciate any help. 

[jorose]

Interestingly there is a Samuel Tasney marriage on freeBMD in 1879, one of the possible spouses is a Margaret Burns.  One of the birth certificates of the children would show whether this is correct or not (freebmd shows in Woolwich: b. James 1884, b. Mary A. 1886).

It may be that Samuel of Belfast moved to NJ, had Samuel the son there, and then either Samuel Jr or the whole family moved back to the UK.  I can't spot Samuel Tasney in the 1881 census - perhaps he's in the Scottish census?

Not sure when Frederick was born but in 1905 in The Times there's a Frederick Tasney, aged 23, a clerk, brought up for sentencing after pleading guilty to four counts of stealing property from officer's quarters.  He had committed the crimes by turning up to different barracks in uniform and gaining access to the quarters that way.  There's mention of his 'previous sentence' and I found another account in 1903, when he's listed as 20 and is charged with larceny and false pretences - again for impersonating military officers and with eight outstanding warrants to his person already.

[skyetrekker]

Interestingly there is a Samuel Tasney marriage on freeBMD in 1879, one of the possible spouses is a Margaret Burns.  One of the birth certificates of the children would show whether this is correct or not (freebmd shows in Woolwich: b. James 1884, b. Mary A. 1886).

It may be that Samuel of Belfast moved to NJ, had Samuel the son there, and then either Samuel Jr or the whole family moved back to the UK.  I can't spot Samuel Tasney in the 1881 census - perhaps he's in the Scottish census?

Not sure when Frederick was born but in 1905 in The Times there's a Frederick Tasney, aged 23, a clerk, brought up for sentencing after pleading guilty to four counts of stealing property from officer's quarters.  He had committed the crimes by turning up to different barracks in uniform and gaining access to the quarters that way.  There's mention of his 'previous sentence' and I found another account in 1903, when he's listed as 20 and is charged with larceny and false pretences - again for impersonating military officers and with eight outstanding warrants to his person already.

I have Samuel & Margaret of Belfast (Sam Jr's parents) through each years census in Paterson NJ until their death.  They are buried in Cedar Lawn Cemetery but Samuel (who emigrated to London) never returns to NJ as far as I can tell.  Frederick Tasney is the eldest son of my Samuel b. 1857 in Paterson m. Catherine as far as I can tell.  Frederick must have gotten himself into quite a bit of  trouble there.  When i get back to London, Ill have to look for some newspaper articles.  In the US we have social security to tell where and when folks died.  How about the UK?

Thank you so much for this information.  I truly appreciate your help.

[jorose]

http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/rectype/vital/freebmd/bmd.aspx - you can follow up births, marriages, and deaths through the freeBMD register (incomplete, 1837-early1900s), and through the original images (four images a year, alphabetical but not name indexed).

Depending on what people were up to you might also find them on www.historicaldirectories.org - there seem to be some hits for 1914/1915 London for Tasney - a Samuel James, but whether that was the one b. NJ or his son Samuel or someone else entirely.