thanks guys, just discovered that another rellie was a "potters Placer" I know that this is the job of placing stuff in the kilns, evidently a fairly important job, as different parts of the kilns were hotter than others, so if the placer didn't know his kiln, he could ruin the work. so I'm putting this bloke down as a buiscuit placer, 'till I can get down to the potteries museums next year.
ta again
peter