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Re: Chalmers Parish ?
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 22 November 06 23:42 GMT (UK) »
The 'Disruption' of the Established Church took place around the early 1840's and I think that a 'Chalmer's Parish' refers to the fact that the parish had disjoined, something like that, I'd need to do a bit more research to confirm but the mention of Thomas Chalmers brought this to mind.

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Re: Chalmers Parish ?
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 23 November 06 01:20 GMT (UK) »
I come from Port Seton, East Lothian, we had a Chalmers Church there, still there, here is a link to website, see history page, mentions your Thomas Chalmers and 1843 break up.
http://www.chalmerschurch.co.uk/history.htm

It may help with your search.
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« Reply #11 on: Thursday 23 November 06 04:08 GMT (UK) »

   Thank you , TidyBooks and Robert, for that information.
                     Chalmers Parish , it seems existed only during the 1841 Census and I am quite satisfied that it was in Glasgow. No doubt there is some more definitive information out there.
                     I am currently reading a book about the William Collins publishing house ( my Grandfather Thomas Hislop, was a Director from 1900 - 1903 ) and Dr Thomas Chalmers had a huge influence there.What I have read so far about Dr Chalmers tells me that he was a man of great vision and genuine concern for the ordinary people who flocked to hear his sermons. I expect there could have been several churches built in his honour. His influence was considerable indeed.
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Re: Chalmers Parish ?
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 23 November 06 14:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi Thommoje,

Lots of this has been discussed in this thread http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,168740.0.html  which I remember from earlier in the year, when I tracked down Kingfield Row previously.  It was a block on Gallowgate rather than a street in its own right - not entirely sure where it would have been as Gallowgate is a long street.

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Re: Chalmers Parish ?
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 23 November 06 19:02 GMT (UK) »
Hello Thommoje,

In the 1841 census, Chalmers was a Quoad Sacra parish within St John's Parish in the City of Glasgow.

ADP

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« Reply #14 on: Thursday 23 November 06 22:40 GMT (UK) »

    Thank you, ADP and Claire and all Chalmers Parish chatters,It semms proven that Chalmers Parish was as we have agreed in Glasgow only for that one census.
              I have not yet reached the part of my book about William Collins and Dr Thomas Chalmers which may tell me more about how that came about , so will keep you posted.
 Last night, I watched an episode of "Who Do You Think You are?" where Jeremy Paxman was tracing his roots. An historical society in Glasgow has preserved one of those tiny "Flats" in which families perhaps with ten children lived , died . existed or just survived. Absolutely mind blowing. No matter how hard we try , we could not really imagine what that must have been like. Angela`s Ashes comes to mind but that was almost a sanitized version of what those poor but wonderful people went through.
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Re: Chalmers Parish ?
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 26 November 06 01:30 GMT (UK) »
Hello Thommoje,

In the 1841 census, Chalmers was a Quoad Sacra parish within St John's Parish in the City of Glasgow.

ADP

Thats interesting, a Quoad Sacra parish was an erected parish under the church extension scheme - which basically was devised to cater for the redistribution of the population [i.e. the increase in urban areas]. The first church in Scotland to be built under this scheme was Crosshill chapel of ease in Baillieston. A Quoad Sacra parish would be created by carving it out of an existing one [a Quoad Spirituala] but it was many years before the new parish was legally constituted [in the case of Crosshill from 1833 to 1872 when it was disjoined form its mother parish of Old Monkland]

I'm wondering if this Chalmers Parish was named so because a chapel like the Crosshill one [which was named after a farm] was named after Dr. Chalmers. It certainly would explain things a wee bit.

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Re: Chalmers Parish ?
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 28 November 06 01:10 GMT (UK) »
thommoje'

Everywhere I go i read about Chalmers, thought you maybe interested.

Works and Papers of Thomas Chalmers... Association for Promoting the Interests of the Church of Scotland", at a meeting held in Roxburgh Church, Edinburgh, on Thursday, 16th February, 1843 ...
www.newble.co.uk/chalmers/copaclist.html - 30k - Cached - Similar pages
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Re: Chalmers Parish ?
« Reply #17 on: Monday 08 December 14 01:26 GMT (UK) »
Chalmers Parish Church was located in Claythorn Street, just off the Gallowgate in Glasgow. My parents were married there in 1954 and l believe it was demolished sometime in the 1960s.