Help please with William Rushton

[Anjo]

More news,


         I have been able to find a birth and chr to Clara Derbyshire
She was born 11 Apr 1864 and chr 13  Apr 1864 in St Oswalds, Ashbourne, Derbyshire parents named  as  Jonathan Derbyshire and Hannah. Well I now  know  who she married but not when.

I also need to sort out her mother.

And then back to original problem of  finding out who William Rushton married.

The search isn't over yet.

Angela.

[Anjo]

I have just found Hannah with hubby Jonathan living in Dove house green of all places  on the 1851. Don't know how I missed them first time  round.

Jonathan 55 b. Ashbourne#
Hannah   32 b.   Staffordshire.  (can't read  the town though)
Samuel    25 b. Ashbourne (son)
Mary         1  b. Ashbourne (dau)

Jonathan must have been married before.

Which would explain why maybe the William  and  George listed as Howson are with their gmother in 1851?

All  I need  are dates and facts now.

Angela.

[Anjo]

Just to add  to things.


The census was the 1861....sorry to mislead  you.

Mary Derbyshire showing as 1 year old  dau on  this census just so happens  to Marry my g-g-uncle James Grindey which is a real surprise.

I think chr  and marriages will have  to wait till I can get to England and  check the records office's.

all the best   Angela.

[Anjo]

Another breakthrough.


 I found Mary Derbyshire in 1871 living with her Aunt Rachel Brown and from  that I found a marriage on the Igi which  fits perfectly plus it names Rachels father as William  Rushton.

Rachel  Rushton married John Brown 25 May 1868 Duffield, Derbyshire her father named as William and his father named  as Joseph. She was age 26 (which fits)  and he was 21 which fits with age  on  census.

Angela.

[spendlove]

Think this is only going to complicate matters, but here goes:-
 Jonothan Derbyshire = Hannah Howson  30.5.1859, this is recorded on civil registrations
as June Q 1859 Belper Registration District (includes Wirksworth)  7b  790.

You can also see the full record of this marriage on
http://www.wirksworth.org.uk/Menu.htm#search
click on item 1 Parish Registers and follow instructions.
This states that Jonothan was a widower and full age and Hannah Howson was single
and of full age.  Both were of Wirksworth Parish

Being a bit slow, how did we get from Rushton to Howson?
Spendlove

[Anjo]

Oh god this is now getting ever so confusing.

Hannah Rushton, mother  to baby Wm age 6mts on 1851 census seems to  have a mother  called Hannah Howson.

Hannah Rushton  married  Jonathan Derbyshire.  Or  should have done.

I really need some chr records to sort this lot out.

Right let me run through the family as I think they are.

William Rushton married Hannah unknown and had these children

Sarah born abt 1825
Hannah  born abt 1829
Ann  born abt 1832
Samuel born abt   1835
Rachel born abt 1842
Emma  born abt  1847

In 1841 there is a Hannah Rushton living in  Blore 

hannah Rushton 35 ind   y
Sarah    Rushton 15        y
Hannah Rushton 12        y
Ann       Rushton   9        y
Samuel Harrison  4         y (not sure how he fits in  but Samuel rushton is living elsewhere in  1841 which I can't lay my hands on those notes.

Now in  1851

Hannah Rushton jnr is living in  Dove House green Ash with siblings Samuel, Rachel and  Emma and  son Wm  age 6mts

Hannah Rushton senior seems  to have remarried and been widowed  again and is a char woman  in  Ilam called Hannah Howson and  age  49 and born Swinscoe.

1861

Hannah Howson  is living with grandchildren William  and George Howson  of whom I think are wrongly named and  should be Rushton.

Hannah Rushton is now married to Jonathan  and living with him and  his son and thier Dau Mary

1871
Hannah  Derbyshire is a now a widow and living with her son George and dau Clara and her mother Hannah Howson

Does that help to make  sense of things.

It wouldn't surprise me if Hannah had taken the name Howson for marriage to Jonathan.  its all very messy but thanks to your help and determination we  might get them  sorted.

Thanks a million for the lookup.

One thing I did find out though was Jonathan's first wife died in 1855 and that mystery wedding in  1856 of Hannah rushton to no groom  would fit in   nicely. Jonathan and Hannah were neighbours so it would all fit.  But that marriage  you've found is very very interesting.

Thanks for not giving up on  me...I  appreciate  all your help.

Angela.

[Anjo]

I've  just had a thought........


If Hannah's mother remarried  to say Wm Howson maybe thats whom  she put as father?? and ither she was  wrongly put as Howson or......... wrongly transcribed.  Can't understand why Wirksworth  though. Seems strange as they were both in  Ashbourne. but date would fit with  thier dau being born in  1860.

I think its a very strong contender and  I do thank you for showing it me.

Angela.

[Anjo]

Update .......  a diff tack.

William Howson married Hannah Harrison 16 Oct 1820 in Ilam derbyshire.

They had a daughter Hannah Howson chr 24 May 1829 Lane end,  Staffordshire.

Hannah then  went on to Marry Jonathan Derbyshire in 1859 in  wirksworth.

Lovely all making sense  except  that the name Rushton has been  thrown  in.

I am awaiting some  scans from a  book about Swinscoe from my friend that mentions  a child being buried  in Common  End Swinscoe  in  1838 belonging to Hannah Haryson/Rushton.

Hannah  Howson was living in  Common  End   in  1841 with dau's Hannah, Sarah,  Ann and a  child Samuel  Harrison age 4. (Except that they all, apart  from  Samuel, have the  surname Rushton)

Now  I only started looking  at this  family  when I was  trying to find the parents of William  Rushton born  1850 Ashbourne, Derbyshire.  I could never find any birth record but seeing as  his mother used the name Howson on  her marriage  I checked the chr records again  and found a William  Howson chr  23 Sep  1850 to mother Hannah Howson  in St Oswalds, Ashbourne.  This must  be  my man.


What does anyone  think??  I really need some opinions.

Hopefully Angela.

[Anjo]

A new twist  to the tale.

 I wonder if this is how the name Rushton came into this family.

There is a William Howson chr 17 Mar 1800 in  Ilam, Derbyshire  to mother Mary Howson.
On  the same day in Ilam, Mary Howson married John Rushton.

could it be possible then  that William went by both names??? and then  wife Hannah couldn't make up her mind whether she should be Mrs Howson or Mrs Rushton?

Any comments people??? or am I confusing everyone?

Angela.