Frey/ Lehman

[kennvido]

GET THIS GUYS AND GALS...

George Frey III whom I talked to this morning, IS CLOSER BLOODLINE than Cousin Richard!!!

George's Grandfather George I is my Great Grandmother Kate's BROTHER, remember George's Grandfather George I stayed with my Great Grandparents Charles and Kate Lehmann and my Grandma Theodora in their home when he came here from England!!!

So George III IS MY FULL BLOODED SECOND COUSIN ONCE REMOVED...MY DADS FULL SECOND COUSIN!!!!

[Richard54]

could we have a  translation on that 

If I have this right then Kate Lehmann was a sister of George Frey, not wife Marie.

           Richard

[kennvido]

Right..........


This George Frey III whom I talked to this morning lived in Richmond Hill, Queens in year 1927 and for a few more years, coincidently MY FATHER BORN IN RICHMOND HILL IN 1920...doesn't recall Lehmann Family, but he said never met or knew whole family. George has to kids Dale and Gail both girls.

BIGGY---Hilda Marie mix-up!!!! George III, I talked to explained…both his Grandmother AND Mother were named Hilda-Marie!!!!! They called one Hilda and one Marie to denote the difference between the two, but BOTH George I and George II wives had the exact same name Hilda Marie Frey!!!!!

He has an Aunt named Gladys married to Ernest Trump late in life and lived at 10457 89th Ave. Richmond Hill. No kids.

George III has a brother named Roy Frey alive and well, whom I will call. No kids for Roy.

He had an Uncle Reginald Frey, deceased he remembers from around 1940 who lived in Woodhaven, Queens with Wife Freda they got divorced. Had business, a sporting equipment store in on Maiden Ln. in Manhattan. Had a son named Reggie Jr. and a girl doesn't remember name.

Had another Uncle Alfred Frey who lived on 107th St. Richmond Hill with Wife named Florence and kids Alfred Jr. and Leo. Alfred Frey came U.S. around WW1 from UK. (Majority of Frey’s came to U.S. around same time the story is). They have kids...he doesn’t remember names.

Shaw WAS originally Schum, why’d he change it? He owned a Pawn Shoppe in the UK and because the name Schum was German and being German wasn’t great, he changed his name to Shaw to do business!!!

John Shaw, he kept Shaw name and was George III Uncle in Elmhurst, Queens

George I, the Grandfather, was a Butcher and owned his own shop.

Gladys is George III Aunt, his Mother’s sister.

Fred Breuninger is George III Uncle Fred married the Elizabeth or Aunt Lizzie (he remembers them).

Adolf or Adolph could be a middle name of George I or II, he doesn’t know.

George says he really doesn't remember Aunt's to well or as well as Uncles. Many lived right around him.

This guy George is on the ball for 81.
 
Richard, this means George III….. is my REAL FULL second cousin once removed since George I and Kate are Brother and Sister!!!!!!

[johnnyboy]

Richard:

Did you get all that....Richard....Richard? I think he's been what they call over there "gob-smacked"

Ken: Congratulations on the discoveries. Perhaps for Richard's sake you might repeat all that...but slowly! I checked 411.com. Found a person who might be Reginald's son, out in Garden City, NY. (Richard that is on Long Island, east of New York City, not too far from Bay Shore and Sayville, where other relatives moved.

Regards,
John

[johnnyboy]

Richard:

Ignore this.  I posted the same thing twice and now can't delete the post. So I deleted the text.

John

[Richard54]

John,
    Yes I have it all, the e mails were flying thick and fast this afternnon from the minute I sent the first New York telephone number to Ken with a try this one and got a hit the first time out I've run through what Ken posted adding notes in an e mail to him.
  This has somewhat galvanised me into action this end, I rang my father who fortunately had an address and phone number for a cousin, John,  I hadn't seen for the best part of 30 years.  I had thought of calling him for nearly a year but had never got round to it as the Freys story lay dormant.
After a very long phone  call  reaquainting each other with where we had been, and some interesting views  on some of our older relatives,he told be he thought that both his mother and aunt, the daughters of Alice Frey, sister to all the other Freys and daughter of the orginal George and Marie  might possibly have some pictures of the Freys of that time.
Also he is sure his aunt did some family research years ago but and it's a large but, we are talking about two very old ladies of 89 and 90 so we will have to see what transpires. John, my cousin, also recalls  a visitor from the American Freys around late 1950 but cannot be certain who.
Oh and as John's mother was a Frey descendant from our grandfathers first marriage ,he also shares a bloodline link to Ken
  So lots of stuff tumbling out from this , we are not finished yet I think
                       Richard

[Richard54]

Had another Uncle Alfred Frey who lived on 107th St. Richmond Hill with Wife named Florence and kids Alfred Jr. and Leo. Alfred Frey came U.S. around WW1 from UK. (Majority of Frey’s came to U.S. around same time the story is). They have kids...he doesn’t remember names

Oh what tangled webbs they weave, Uncle Alfred ,at least Alfred in 1901 census, is George F by the time of his marriage to Florence Meade in 1910 Manchester and is George A arriving with Florence, and sons Alfred and Leo in 1927. As there was already a son George Frederick born 1885 Manchester  , I had discounted the 1927 arrival, as the age of "George" didn't add up.  and then he's  Alfred again in the US

                                     Richard

[kennvido]

Johnny, keep in mind I was born in Jamaica, Queen's then moved to West Hempstead, so I know the area well.
Cool info huh???

[YvonneR]

Congratulations, Richard and Ken

This is the most wonderful news, I am sooooooooo very happy for you both.

I am feeling honoured and delighted to have been involved in a small way in your magnificent quest.

Absolutely loved reading all the updated information (although I haven't quite got my head around the relationships yet  )


My most sincere good wishes to you both and to your family members       

Agnes



Looking forward to the next installment