Frey/ Lehman

[Richard54]

Hi all
   I see you two are online  . I have just got on line to a mass of messages, just getting my brain in gear. This really is a turn up for the books
 Give me a minute . I'll be back with something more intelligent
                      Richard

[YvonneR]

Hey Richard, so pleased to see you, we have been waiting           

Just take your time and I will back out now, enjoy talking to your cousin (I have!)

Loads of good wishes to you both

Agnes

[kennvido]

Waiting to hear from you...keeping me in suspenders!!!

[johnnyboy]

Hi Ken, Welcome to Rootschat. Thought I'd add my congratulations to you and Richard on making the connection. I played some part in this search, and also live in Brooklyn, so I've been following it with great interest.

Wondering what happened to Charles and Kate Lehman, since Richard and Agnes couldn't find them in the 1930 U.S. census.

Regards,
John

[Richard54]

John,
     They were in there somewhere, son Charles Andrew Richard who we found as Richard Mampel born 1920 New York is the connection through to Ken.  The puzzle now is Ken is not aware that the family knew of the other Frey/Shaw connections back to the same family of Freys. yet the passenger records showed they knew each other and indeed some of the census stuff reveals them passing through each others houses
            Richard

ps we have got alot of digging and sorting and for that matter alot of exchanging info to do yet

[johnnyboy]

yet the passenger records showed they knew each other and indeed some of the census stuff reveals them passing through each others houses
           

Richard: Knowing each other and passing through each other's houses is one of the typical behaviors of immigrants to the U.S.  One relative might serve as a pathfinder to the U.S. and later be joined by others or by friends from the same town. They'd find jobs in the same industry, live in the same village, town, or section of a city. Sometimes, as happened with my Italian forebears, whole groups would emigrate from the same village and settle near one another, trying to duplicate the social structure of the old country. My English ancestors from Halifax were not so group-minded, but when my great-grandfather and my great-grandmother emigrated, they went to a city in Massachusetts where one of his sisters was already living, and they worked in the same industry that had employed them in England.

That's why I pointed out the "northeastern migration pattern" of the Lehman/Freys/Shaws. From Brooklyn toward Queens, that is.

Regards,
John

P.S. I might go to the New York City Municipal Archives on an unrelated matter. So make a list and check it twi...no, make that...thrice.

John

[kennvido]

yet the passenger records showed they knew each other and indeed some of the census stuff reveals them passing through each others houses
           

Richard: Knowing each other and passing through each other's houses is one of the typical behaviors of immigrants to the U.S.  One relative might serve as a pathfinder to the U.S. and later be joined by others or by friends from the same town. They'd find jobs in the same industry, live in the same village, town, or section of a city. Sometimes, as happened with my Italian forebears, whole groups would emigrate from the same village and settle near one another, trying to duplicate the social structure of the old country. My English ancestors from Halifax were not so group-minded, but when my great-grandfather and my great--grandmother emigrated, they went to a city in Massachusetts where one of his sister was already living, and they worked in the same industry that had employed them in England.

That's why I pointed out the "northeastern migration pattern" of the Lehman/Freys/Shaws.

Regards,
John

P.S. I might go to the New York City Municipal Archives on an unrelated matter. So make a list and check it twi...no, make that...thrice.

John

Thanks Johnny...anywhere near Bay 8th and Cropsy Ave? My first girlfriend was from there.
We figured we are Half-First Cousins once removed.
We will continue to find out more with you and that Southpaw Agnes.
I do agree some people as they cross the Ocean cross paths and then lose touch as Shaw and Frey could have done. I think Lehmann/Frey my great grandparents met and married before there came here. Shaw could have just been on ship. I just don't surely know. Can't wait to find the pic of Kate and my Grandma and Aunt Lily and see if Richard's family showed any resemblance.

Ken

[johnnyboy]

Ken: Originally from Pennsylvania, near Pittsburgh. I live near Brooklyn College and Bedford Avenue. I do know Cropsey Avenue--but as a place to avoid because of the Belt Parkway!

If you feel up to it, you can scan your picture and attach it to a posting here on Rootschat. Over three hundred people have followed this thread. I'm sure they'd be interested in seeing the pic.

Regards,
John

[Richard54]

I'm now going to have to go back all over this again checking  and there was me thinking i could put this all to bed and leave to rest for a while.
I've just got into silk weavers in Suffolk in 1700-1850 , I can see that going on the back burner 
                             Richard