Frey/ Lehman

[kennvido]

In 1900, Katie (Catherine) is shown as having had 2 children and 1 living(Theodora)

Could this be the other child?

New York City Deaths, 1892-1902
 
Charles Lehmann, age 1 year, 3rd July 1897
Certificate number 19897

Just thought it might be something to look at at the archives

Agnes

Agnes, my Grandma Thea said she ONLY had the one sister Lily. Lily's twin died at birth or maybe some hours or days after.
I will attempt to get hold of Walter, Lily's son, to find out what he knows.

[kennvido]

Hi Richard

Eyes are really tired now, so will call it a night 

Strange that you should mention Switzerland, I will have to go back and look at the census's.....but I am sure that Ken mentioned Switzerland when we were "talking" in the chatroom this morning.

Tiredness has crept up on me but hopefully Ken will clear this up when he comes online.

More to do tomorrow     

Agnes

Yes Agnes, there is a Switzerland!
Grandma Thea TOLD my her Father Charles Lehmann was born in Switz. My surprise is the move to the UK. I don't remember her telling my that. Will check must more with my sister Betsy.

[kennvido]

I will get better one.....
Theodora Lehmann Mampel and Carl Mampel in center on pic one

Lillian Lehmann Jasinski and Charles Jasinki (no glasses) on pic two

both taken at Wedding in 1954, that's my Mom on Grandpa's left your right.

[Richard54]

Great pics Ken
It's great to see old family photos and the fact that they get handed on, sometimes I could scream for the lack of stuff handed down .Yet families who emigrated seemed to value family mementoes far more. I actually recovered a picture of my great grandmother b.1861 Warwickshire which had been coverted in America for 90 years by a distant relative and in another line a photo dated around 1860 involving Australia that was still in the familyand had all the info written on the back , and others again from New Zealand. It's almost embarassing to have so little to return in kind.
 I have been giving Agnes's point about exactly who was the sister some thought, and unfortunately the immigration papers list  George and Marie as going to sister Mrs Lehmann. So it really is open, George and Marie married in Germany so there is little chance of finding her maiden name.
The only possible opening is pinning down Charles and Kate Lehmann, if the census is true,then they arrived 1898 and 1890 but married in 1894 in New York.  I don't know if american birth certicates would open this up perhaps someone on here would know.

                                Richard

[kennvido]

We will find, plus I will call Walter like I said and see what he knows. He's Lily's son. Maybe a wealth of infomation...maybe a dead end.

Ken

[kennvido]

Can't find Walter at the one of three number listed, nor his son....a wall?

[Richard54]

Never mind Ken, I'm still amazed at you stumbling across this thread
 While we seem to have stalled a touch going back with the Lehmanns, looking forward  it still occurs to me likely that Ernest and Gladys Trump nee Frey might have had a family even though SSDI seems to indicate they both died back in Germany in 1988 and 2000
Meanwhile Reginald Frey  although a possible SSDI 1970 New York may well have living descendants too.
 Not forgetting Hilda (Frey)and George Shaw, with poss SSDI 1981, 1988, have sons Roy, 1929, and George, 1925 have no SSDI showing and must surely have descendants. The phone numbers listed on Ancestry registered in the New York area give me itchy fingers   I've done it before with a call to a number in Australia and come up trumps. Mind you,I would have felt a bit of an idiot if it hadn't worked out

                     Richard

[kennvido]

Look, just give the ANY phone numbers in the U.S. and I will call. Costs me nothing!!!
Use my PRIVATE email of course....
I must know now about that part of our family as well.
My son is the ONLY one to keep the Lehmann/Frey line going, unless George has sons downline.

Half Cousin Ken 

[Richard54]

 
Well, I'm sitting here in suspense, the first number I pulled out of the hat  is indeed the grandson of George Frey
Ken just mailed me with a very short message  "talking to him now,his grandfather was George Frey"
It's killing me waiting to know more

                     Richard