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GREGORY/Ballinsloe
« on: Saturday 18 November 06 14:19 GMT (UK) »
According to her obituary, tombstone, and a letter written by a granddaughter, my ggg-grandmother, Elizabeth GREGORY (her maiden name) was born in Ballinsloe, County Tyrone in 1827. The problem is that I cannot find any evidence of a Ballinsloe in County Tyrone. Has anyone heard of such a place?

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Re: GREGORY/Ballinsloe
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 29 January 08 20:51 GMT (UK) »
Hello HarryC,

There appears to be no Ballinsloe in Co. Tyrone ... it's not listed in IreAtlas on thecore.com/seanruad I found a search facility on www.ulsterplacenames.org and tried
it with no success ... it appears to be broken.  There's no sign of the place on www.ulsterancestry.com/ua-free_Townlands-Tyrone.html

There is a Ballinasloe in Co. Galway.

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Re: GREGORY/Ballinsloe
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 29 January 08 21:06 GMT (UK) »
No Ballinsloe in County Tyrone as Christopher says but there are 3 townlands in Co. Tyrone named Ballynasollus. See www.thecore.com/seanruad to search for townlands and parishes (be sure to cheange default setting from exact match- I looked for townlands starting with 'ball').
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Re: GREGORY/Ballinsloe
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 29 January 08 21:34 GMT (UK) »
No Ballinsloe in County Tyrone as Christopher says but there are 3 townlands in Co. Tyrone named Ballynasollus. See www.thecore.com/seanruad to search for townlands and parishes (be sure to cheange default setting from exact match- I looked for townlands starting with 'ball').

Two of those places are in the Barony of Dungannon Upper, the other in Strabane Upper

Gregory ... Griffiths Valuation of Co. Tyrone 1851
William, Knockonny, Errigal Keerogue
James, Killymorgan, Errigal Keerogue
Edward, Scarvagherin, Ardstraw

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Re: GREGORY/Ballinsloe
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 29 January 08 21:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi

This is only a longshot, and just from memory, but this wouldn't be the Elizabeth Gregory who married a Hoey would it? (Mostly Louth and Dublin).

I've heard of a name a bit like that - my Hoeys are so hard I keep loads of references even if they're only possibles - it wouldn't be Ballinasloe would it, with the extra "a" in it?

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Re: GREGORY/Ballinsloe
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 29 January 08 23:55 GMT (UK) »
Well...

"Ballinsloe, County Tyrone" is what is on the tombstone. It is certain that she was illiterate and it is unlikely that her children knew Gaelic. So, most likely that is a phonetic (in American English) spelling. If Ballynasollus is pronounced "Ballinsloe" then that may be the place.

She married a Brehany and a Maguire in Galena, Illinois.

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Re: GREGORY/Ballinsloe
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 30 January 08 00:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Well that rules my Hoeys out, but I'll see if I can find the references I think I've seen to Ballinasloe..

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Re: GREGORY/Ballinsloe
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 30 January 08 14:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Maybe it's a different place.

I searched the web and came up with a place which I assume from the Council name is in Galway.  My geography's not that brilliant, but it's maybe different from your one.

It claims the oldesy horse fair in Ireland and has a history, & genealogy site.  So it fits the Hoeys other wise!  Horses and leather!

Link below!

http://www.ballinasloe.com/forum/index.php

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Re: GREGORY/Ballinsloe
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 30 January 08 22:23 GMT (UK) »
According to her obituary, tombstone, and a letter written by a granddaughter, my ggg-grandmother, Elizabeth GREGORY (her maiden name) was born in Ballinsloe, County Tyrone in 1827. The problem is that I cannot find any evidence of a Ballinsloe in County Tyrone. Has anyone heard of such a place?

Hi HarryC,

I think the message on the tombstone may have been chipped by a monumental sculptor who was not exactly well read ... there are far more places beginning with Bally than there are Balli in the north of Ireland so I checked thecore.com/seanruad for Bally ....  There's a 798 acre townland called Ballyness in the Barony, Civil Parish and Poor Law Union of Clogher. I feel the locals may well have distinguished areas in Ballyness as Ballyness Low and Ballyness Upper.   

Christopher