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[willow2670]

Glad you thought of me to solve your problems! 
Why did you think of me!! 

Hi Keith,
With someone of your intelligence, why wouldn't I ask you     

I would say William Allen's year of birth is closer to 1826-1828.

Thanks for any help as Sarah is my 2nd Great Grandmother.
This has been my brickwall for years.   


Sue

[Keith Bateman]

Hi Sue,

After spending 2 hours looking at a fische(?) screen I thought I deserved a rest - so have come and sat in front of a computer screen instead 

Right - GOOD News    - and not so good news 

I may have found your family - well I have found the correct names and ages! 
BUT not together - anyway here goes:

Hollins Lane - Tilstock (hamlet outside of Whitchurch)
William Allen - 15 - Ap. - N (not born in county!)
at the home of Thomas Cook - 35 - Farmer, together with Mary - 35 - and Holling - 11 - also Gillian Hamlett - 20 - F S (farm servant?) - all born in county
(William didn't marry a Gillian by any remote chance?)

There were 4 other "Allen" families which I made a note of - but not the correct names - you can have them if you want. (William aged 6 - father William etc)

I then went right through the census and the last building was the "House of Industry" (better known as the work house!!)
Robert Allen - 75 - Shoemaker  - Y
George Allen - 55 - Ag Lab - N
Sarah Allen - 10 - N

These names were NOT together - I noticed all the children were written down together - Adults first.
So we have 3 out of 4 of your family - but is it a family.
Maybe - the 15 year old William could earn his keep and so was sent to live on a farm - the other 2 could not and so were in the work house! But that is only my imagination working overtime - again!!

I also had a look at the baptisms for Whitchurch from 1823 (don't trust your lot!) to 1831 and no William!! (or any Allens for that matter!!)

So I am really not sure if I have been any help - I could make a good case for them being your "lot" but no proof - have you John's birth details/certificate - anything on their mother?

Cheers

Keith

[willow2670]

Hi Keith,
Goodness, you have been doing your work!

I will take a note of the details you have found & try & see
what I can come up with.

Nothing you mention rings any bells except the possibilty of
George Allen 55 & maybe Sarah Allen 10, in the Workhouse.

Very vague I know, but better then nothing (for now, anycase!)

John Allen was born 1832 NOT 1839 as I had typed,  so no luck
with any birth certs.

I would appreciate the other 4 Allen families you have found.
There might be a slight possibilty it could lead somewhere.
(Maybe round the bend, but then, I have always wanted to travel!!)

Many thanks for your time.
Sue

[Keith Bateman]

Hi Sue,

These are the other Allens that I found in the 1841 census at the library

Yardington - now part of Whitchurch
William Allen - 39 - Ag Lab - No
Ellen  "            36                 
William               6
Orlando             1
Elizabeth           8

Benjamin Allen - 30 - Joiner
Ann                     30
Thomas                3
Ann                       1
Sarah                 2 months

Watergate St, Whitchurch
Charles Allen  - 30 - Butcher
Ann                 - 30
William            - 7
Charles          - 5
Mary                 3
Ellinor        11 months

Ellinor Allen - 75
John            - 30 - Butcher

All born in the county except where stated
Remember ages over 15 are rounded down.

Just wondering why you have discounted the William I found - was it because of where he was born?

Cheers

Keith

[Oldfield]

Hi Keith, Hope you can help.

In the 1861 census at  Little Common, St Martin, Shropshire
John Evans age 25, Labourer on coal bank, born  Shropshire Witchurch and his wife
Ellen age 19, born  Shropshire Ellesmere 
I am looking for a marriage for these two.  Could you look to see if John Evans born circa 1836
is anywhere there?  Birth, christening, marriage or any record Thanks Dianne

[Keith Bateman]

Hi Dianne,

The marriage is usually in the parish of the wife (Ellesmere) or where they are living.

Had a quick look on the 1851 census - there are 3 John Evans all born at the right time - all living as servants in the local area - one with a 14 year old Samuel Evans (his brother??)

I think the only thing I may find is his birth details in 1836 - but expect/know there will be more than one John Evans - any idea of his parents?

Any reason to think his marriage would have been in Whitchurch?

Cheers

Keith

[madpants]

Hi Keith,
I know this is a bit of a long shot, not knowing much about the area but I'm looking for my Great Aunt, Sarah Greenwell otherwise known as Sadie.

According to my Auntie she was last heard of working in a pub in Whitchurch in the late 50's early 60's (she'd be about that age too as she was born in 1897) and I'm not having a lot of luck finding her death, would it be possible to see if she's buried there too please?

many thanks
Tessa

[sharsc]

Hi Keith,
a small request  from sunny Australia.

When next able could you look up the following for me please.

Mary France bapt WHITCHURCH  2 Sept 1835 and advise me of her parents names in the register?
John WEBSTER bapt WHITCHURCH  18 June 1848 -parents names?
John WEBSTER and Mary Eliza/Elizabeth  SMITH  married 1872 - sorry no date availalbe. if found could I have date and  parents names please?

When gravehunting around Whitchurch if you come across any headstones of France a copy/details  would be much appreciated

thanks so much for anything you can provide
Sharon   

[Keith Bateman]

Hi Sharon,

Thanks for the notes - PM sent to you.

Cheers

Keith