PATRICK - MILLAR - HARVIE Families ( Pre-1815 )

[paddy_k1w1]

Any help with finding ancestors of the following, would be very much appreciated.  I've come up against a brick wall.

FIRSTLY, THE PATRICK FAMILY

1. William PATRICK
Birth Date:   1790

Spouse:   Elizabeth PATRICK (? formerly PATRICK)

Children:   William

1.1. William PATRICK
Birth Date:   1815
Birth Place:   Beith, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND
Death Date:   3 Jun 1897
Death Place:   Geraldine, NEW ZEALAND

Spouse:   Elizabeth HARVIE
Birth Date:   6 Jul 1815
Birth Place:   Glasgow, Larnarkshire, SCOTLAND
Death Date:   5 Jul 1895
Death Place:   Geraldine, NEW ZEALAND
Spouse Father:   William HARVIE (1783-)
Spouse Mother:   Elizabeth Cross DAWSON (1787-)

Marriage Date:   24 Jan 1834
Marriage Place:   Beith, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND


ALSO THE HARVIE (MAYBE HARVEY) FAMILY:


William HARVIE
Birth Date:   About 1783
Birth Place:   Glasgow, SCOTLAND

Spouse:   Elizabeth Cross DAWSON
Birth Date:   About 1787
Birth Place:   Glasgow, SCOTLAND

Marriage Date:   16 Jan 1815
Marriage Place:   Glasgow, SCOTLAND

Children:   

1.1.Elizabeth HARVIE
Birth Date:   6 Jul 1815
Birth Place:   Glasgow, Larnarkshire, SCOTLAND

1.2.Alexander Maxtone HARVIE
Birth Date:   3 Mar 1817
Birth Place:   Fowlis Wester, Perth, SCOTLAND

1.3.Helen HARVIE
Birth Date:   30 Nov 1818
Birth Place:   Fowlis Wester, Perth, SCOTLAND

1.4.John Dawson HARVIE
Birth Date:   25 Dec 1820
Birth Place:   Fowlis Wester, Perth, SCOTLAND

1.5.Margaret Drew HARVIE
Birth Date:   20 Feb 1831
Birth Place:   Old Kilpatrick, Dunbarton, SCOTLAND


AND LASTLY THE MILLAR FAMILY:

William MILLAR
Birth Date:   About 1803
Birth Place:   Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND
Death Date:   About 1861

Spouse:   Margaret GIBSON
Birth Date:   19 Jan 1807
Birth Place:   Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, SCOTLAND
Death Date:   3 May 1892
Death Place:   Geraldine, NZ
Spouse Father:   William GIBSON (1777-)
Spouse Mother:   Janet FIN[D]LAY (1784-)

Marriage Date:   25 Sep 1829
Marriage Place:   Kilmarnock, SCOTLAND

Children:   

Janet MILLAR
Birth Date:   7 Mar 1830
Birth Place:   Kilmarnock, Scotland
Spouse:   Henry HABISON
Marriage Date:   1 Aug 1856

Mary MILLAR
Birth Date:   22 Mar 1842
Birth Place:   Kilmarnock, SCOTLAND
Death Date:   10 Jul 1920
Death Place:   Geraldine, NZ
Spouse:   William PATRICK
Birth Date:   26 Jun 1835
Birth Place:   Beith, SCOTLAND
Death Date:   31 Dec 1914
Death Place:   Winchester, NEW ZEALAND
Spouse Father:   William PATRICK (1815-1897)
Spouse Mother:   Elizabeth HARVIE  (1815-1895)


Look forward to hearing from anyone who may beable to help.
kind regards
Paddy
(New Zealand)

[runningbear]

bit of a tall order there paddy, maybe break it down a little and repost your requests, just to start you off

1841 census: 60 new street, beith

william...age 25...cotton hand loom weaver
elizabeth...age 25
william...age 5
hugh...age 4

all born beith

1851 census; head street beith

william...head...age 37...hand loom weaver
elizabeth...wife...age 35...born glasgow
william...son...age 15...coal miner
hugh...son...age 14...coal miner
john...son...age 9
elizabeth...dau...age 5

all born beith unless stated otherwise

1861 census: 78/80 robertson place, kilmarnock

william...head...age 47...inn keeper...born beith
elizabeth...wife...age 45...born glasgow
john...son...age 19...coal miner...born beith
elizabeth...dau...age 15...domestic servant...born beith
alexander...son...age 7...born kilmarnock
margaret...dau...age 4...born dreghorn
jessie...dau...age 2...born riccarton
mary miller...dau...age 18 months...born kilmarnock


1861 census: 70 robertson place, kilmarnock

hugh...head...age 24...coal miner...born beith
mary...wife...age 27...born kilmarnock
elizabeth...dau...age 5 months...born kilmarnock

happy hunting

Joe

[paddy_k1w1]

Hi there Joe,
This is great stuff you've managed to dig up!
Yes, i was a bit cheeky, expecting info on all my family branches wasn't I?  But thank you for giving it a go for me!

There has been mystery around Elizabeth & William Patrick's son Hugh, who until very recently, was unknown to me..... now you've been able to give me  details that suggests he married prior to my gt. gt. grandfather emigrating to NZ and this may have been the reason he stayed behind in Scotland, instead of joining the rest of his family, parents & siblings (who also emigrated to NZ).

I'm so grateful to you for searching this info out for me.  thank you very much.
 

[runningbear]

you are more than welcome paddy, now get posting on your other requests!!

Joe

[Oura]

I am a descendant of Hugh Patrick.
Hugh Patrick married Mary Richmond on 27 July 1860 in Kilmarnock.
Mary was born in 1840, and her parents were David Wilson Richmond and Grace Baird.
Hugh and Mary's first child was Elizabeth Patrick who was born in Kilmarnock.
Three more daughters were born, Grace Baird Patrick, Mary Patrick (1) and Agnes Gower Patrick before the first son William James Patrick was born in Lambton, Australia on 10 March 1870.
The following children were David Richmond Patrick (1873), Mary Patrick(2)(1875), Hubert Patrick (1877), Arthur Maxton Patrick (1881), Jessie Patrick and May Patrick (1883).
Hugh died 22 November 1918 and Mary 15 July 1916. They lived for many years in Elder Street, Lambton.
Lambton was a major coal mining area of Newcastle in Australia.
I have no record of when they arrived in Australia.

Oura

[paddy_k1w1]

OH MY GOODNESS!!  I have so much to share with you!  I haven't time to talk just now, but i promise i'll be back in touch within the week.
thank you so so much for contacting me. 
kindest regards,
Paddy
(New Zealand)

[runningbear]

a very very warm welcome to rootschat oura, i hope this has opened a whole new world for you.

if you need any help please ask. i will have a wee look at the cenus details for your family in a wee while.

so glad you made contact with paddy, wish you both well, looks like christmas has come early for you both.

Joe

[runningbear]

hope this is of some help oura

1841 census: morton place, kilmarnock

the richmond family

david...age 30...tailor
grace...age 30
robert...age 15
mason (female !)...age 12
william...age 10
margaret...age 8
charlotte...age 5
john...age 3
mary...age 10 months

all born ayr


1861 census: 2 morton place, kilmarnock

david...head...age 55...tailor
grace...wife...age 54...born stirling
charlotte...dau...age 25...cotton weaver
john...son...age 23...blacksmith
david...son...age 16

all born kilmarnock unless stated otherwise


happy hunting

Joe

[Oura]

Thanks Joe, the Census information was much appreciated.

Young Mason (female?) was young Marion, named after her grandmother Marion McGregor of Old Cumnock, said by some to be the daughter of Donald McGregor and Sarah Cameron, and great granddaughter of Rob Roy McGregor.

Oura
(Australia)