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Re: 100% English - New Channel 4 genealogy programme
« Reply #54 on: Sunday 12 November 06 18:54 GMT (UK) »
Welsh people are properly more English due to the hoards of people that escaped the attackers and conquerers in england and went west to wales.
Jim

Crickey!!  Don't say that this side of Offa's Dyke!! The English came after the Britons who moved west to escape those dastardly Angles - didn't they?


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Re: 100% English - New Channel 4 genealogy programme
« Reply #55 on: Sunday 12 November 06 21:09 GMT (UK) »
Hello

Just a reminder, the programme is:

TOMORROW (Mon), CHANNEL 4, 8-9pm


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Re: 100% English - New Channel 4 genealogy programme
« Reply #56 on: Sunday 12 November 06 21:15 GMT (UK) »
Welsh people are properly more English due to the hoards of people that escaped the attackers and conquerers in england and went west to wales.
Jim

Crickey!!  Don't say that this side of Offa's Dyke!! The English came after the Britons who moved west to escape those dastardly Angles - didn't they?


RuthieB (in a very pro-Welsh mood today after having sung 'Hen wlad fy nhadau' very rousingly at the Remembrance Sunday service in Lampeter)

Oh dear, I was born  1/4 mile to the East of Offa's Dyke although it was in Wales at the time!
And I can sing Hen wlad fy nhadau, word perfect.

What am I - an ancient Briton  ??? ??? ???

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« Reply #57 on: Monday 13 November 06 13:41 GMT (UK) »
I thought this programme may be of interest.


Channel 4     8 o'clock  100% English.

8 people born in England, all are convinced that they are 100% English agree to admit their DNA for tests with some surprising results.


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Re: 100% English - New Channel 4 genealogy programme
« Reply #58 on: Monday 13 November 06 19:36 GMT (UK) »
Some of the English ended up in Anglesea where there was a battle some fled to Ireland

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Re: 100% English - New Channel 4 genealogy programme
« Reply #59 on: Monday 13 November 06 19:54 GMT (UK) »
Some of the English ended up in Anglesea where there was a battle some fled to Ireland

Jim

What battle was this, Jim? I know of the famous one between the Celts and the Romans and the later one repelling an invasion of Vikings (Anglesey is a Viking name) from Dublin.
When you refer to English, do you actually mean English - or Britons fleeing west to avoid the invading Angles and Saxons, the people who later became the English. If not, I'm totally baffled.
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Re: 100% English - New Channel 4 genealogy programme
« Reply #60 on: Monday 13 November 06 20:01 GMT (UK) »
sorry may have got the battle bit wrong but Anglesea was something to do with the english

will check source on battle in Anglesea

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Re: 100% English - New Channel 4 genealogy programme
« Reply #61 on: Monday 13 November 06 20:57 GMT (UK) »
So Ian Wright is English and a Credit to it

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Re: 100% English - New Channel 4 genealogy programme
« Reply #62 on: Monday 13 November 06 21:06 GMT (UK) »
re battle in Anglesea  with the Romans

Around 60 A.D., Paulinus, who served Emperor Nero  had been successful in crushing tribes of Celts through Wales. When he received orders to break the back of the Druids and therefore the Celts; he headed for the stronghold, Ynys Mon.

There on the shore of the Penmon Peninsula he encountered a powerful army of Celts and Druids. Here is an account from Tacitus Annals written at the time of the battle; "On the beach stood the adverse array, a serried mass of arms and men with women flitting between the ranks. In the style of Furies, in robes of deathly black and with dishevelled hair, they brandished their torches; while a circle of Druids, lifting their hands to heaven and showering imprecations, struck the troops with such an awe at the extraordinary spectacle that, as though their limbs were paralyzed, they exposed their bodies to wounds without an attempt at movement." The Romans were frightened as you can imagine but forged on as was their style and they "cut down all who met them and enveloped the enemy in his own flames." It did not stop there; the sacred groves on Ynys Mon were cut down and many Celts on the island were tortured and killed. The Romans succeeded in destroying the Druids and eventually the Celts.


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