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Re: 100% English - New Channel 4 genealogy programme
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 29 October 06 18:26 GMT (UK) »
Great can not wait to see. I wonder if there are any true English as a Saxon came from Saxony in Germany

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well according to downside (see above) most of us! I still think it is a bit narrow to think of oneself as pure english. Sorry!

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Re: 100% English - New Channel 4 genealogy programme
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 29 October 06 20:31 GMT (UK) »
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I wonder if there are any true English as a Saxon came from Saxony in Germany
Considering the vast majority of those tested in genetic studies have shown to be descended from pre-Saxon Britains, most certainly...
Currently engaging in a one-name study of the Twyman surname.

Golding, Twyman, Kennard, Wales (Kent).
Berks, Challinor (Staffordshire).
Wakely. (Glam & Monmouth).

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Re: 100% English - New Channel 4 genealogy programme
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 29 October 06 22:57 GMT (UK) »
These Pre saxons must have come from the west side of england as the Vikings murdered most on the east side of England (Britain)  Perhaps they hid in Wales????
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Re: 100% English - New Channel 4 genealogy programme
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 29 October 06 23:01 GMT (UK) »
I seem to remember that "Welsh" originally meant British - the indigenous people who were pushed westwards by waves of invaders.  And the Celts came from mainland Europe.
Godden in East Sussex, mainly Hastings area.
Richards in Lea, Gloucestershire, then London.
Williamson in Leith, Vickers in Nottingham.
Webb in Bildeston and Colchester.
Wesbroom in Kirby le Soken.
Ellington in Harwich.
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Re: 100% English - New Channel 4 genealogy programme
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 29 October 06 23:07 GMT (UK) »
I have read some where that they did go to Wales and also Cornwall on getting away from the Vikings the Romans the Normans and the Saxon's Even  King Alfred Of Wessex lived in the West country

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Re: 100% English - New Channel 4 genealogy programme
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 29 October 06 23:21 GMT (UK) »
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I seem to remember that "Welsh" originally meant British

No.  It was the Anglo-Saxon for stranger or slave, which why the Welsh prefer Cymru.

Most modern thinking on the so called Anglo Saxon invasion is that it did not actually happen.  Instead there were a few Anglo Saxon chieftans that held high positions in British society. 

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Re: 100% English - New Channel 4 genealogy programme
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 29 October 06 23:23 GMT (UK) »
Found a good article on this web site The Germanic's called the Britains who went west Wales and Cornwall Welsch to Romanised Britain's

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Re: 100% English - New Channel 4 genealogy programme
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 29 October 06 23:33 GMT (UK) »
I don't know what "most modern thinking" means.  Chapter and verse, please.  The number of Anglo-Saxon place names attests to the to the numbers that came here; maybe not as invading armies, but certainly siezing power and controlling large areas of the country.  Depends what you mean by invasion.
Godden in East Sussex, mainly Hastings area.
Richards in Lea, Gloucestershire, then London.
Williamson in Leith, Vickers in Nottingham.
Webb in Bildeston and Colchester.
Wesbroom in Kirby le Soken.
Ellington in Harwich.
Park, Palmer, Segar and Peartree in Kersey.

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Re: 100% English - New Channel 4 genealogy programme
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 29 October 06 23:36 GMT (UK) »
Jim, do you realise the origins of that article you've quoted?  I doubt you would have posted the link if you did.
Godden in East Sussex, mainly Hastings area.
Richards in Lea, Gloucestershire, then London.
Williamson in Leith, Vickers in Nottingham.
Webb in Bildeston and Colchester.
Wesbroom in Kirby le Soken.
Ellington in Harwich.
Park, Palmer, Segar and Peartree in Kersey.