Author Topic: Pte. E. Cope of Penallt  (Read 14662 times)

Offline wrjones

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 8,482
    • View Profile
Re: Pte. E. Cope of Penallt
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 02 May 07 23:46 BST (UK) »
Could your E. Cope have been born in Staffordshire?There were about 2400 with that name in the 1901 Census.

Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
Census Information Is Crown Copyright,from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline Lydart

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,272
    • View Profile
Re: Pte. E. Cope of Penallt
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 03 May 07 18:36 BST (UK) »
Thanks to both of you for info and other ideas.

I would think that Pts Cope was local to this area, but where he was born, I have no idea !  If only we had a definite name, we could search the censuses ...
Dorset/Wilts/Hants: Trowbridge Williams Sturney/Sturmey Prince Foyle/Foil Hoare Vincent Fripp/Frypp Triggle/Trygel Adams Hibige/Hibditch Riggs White Angel Cake 
C'wall/Devon/France/CANADA (Barkerville, B.C.): Pomeroy/Pomerai/Pomroy
Som'set: Clark(e) Fry
Durham: Law(e)
London: Hanham Poplett
Lancs/Cheshire/CANADA (Kelowna, B.C. & Sask): Stubbs Walmesley

WRITE LETTERS FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS TO TREASURE ... EMAILS DISAPPEAR !

Census information Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline warresearcher

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 25
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.natio
    • View Profile
Re: Pte. E. Cope of Penallt
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 03 May 07 19:43 BST (UK) »
I am back up at the NA  a week Sat and have a few other ideas to explore on the census an military areas. On the plus side I have dug deeply and found out a lot on Penallt that would otherwise never have come my way!
Trellech War Dead, Penallt war Dead and War Dead of Pontypridd Boys Grammar School.

Barrage Balloon activity in WWII See

www.bbrclub.org.

Offline warresearcher

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 25
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.natio
    • View Profile
Re: Pte. E. Cope of Penallt
« Reply #30 on: Saturday 03 November 07 21:11 GMT (UK) »
Well there are only 7 days left to find the name for Private E Cope. I have talked to numerous Copes in the town but no-one admits to a connection.
I wonder if we shall ever know?

Interestingly enough my search for George Cope of Whitebrook has been very fruitless, I wonder if he is a relative to E Cope? .
 He was on the voters list for 1915. I wonder if the 1911 census might one day help?
Unless a miracle happens we will be spending another year without the full name.
Thanks everybody!!

Peter

Trellech War Dead, Penallt war Dead and War Dead of Pontypridd Boys Grammar School.

Barrage Balloon activity in WWII See

www.bbrclub.org.


Offline Lydart

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,272
    • View Profile
Re: Pte. E. Cope of Penallt
« Reply #31 on: Saturday 03 November 07 21:13 GMT (UK) »
Only four and a bit years to wait, Peter !
Dorset/Wilts/Hants: Trowbridge Williams Sturney/Sturmey Prince Foyle/Foil Hoare Vincent Fripp/Frypp Triggle/Trygel Adams Hibige/Hibditch Riggs White Angel Cake 
C'wall/Devon/France/CANADA (Barkerville, B.C.): Pomeroy/Pomerai/Pomroy
Som'set: Clark(e) Fry
Durham: Law(e)
London: Hanham Poplett
Lancs/Cheshire/CANADA (Kelowna, B.C. & Sask): Stubbs Walmesley

WRITE LETTERS FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS TO TREASURE ... EMAILS DISAPPEAR !

Census information Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline Wendi

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,088
  • Peeking into the past
    • View Profile
Re: Pte. E. Cope of Penallt
« Reply #32 on: Saturday 03 November 07 22:02 GMT (UK) »
Well done for spotting this one Peter

I was only wondering today how far Lydart had got with it., I know what a busy gal she is  ;) perhaps we should make him a Rootschat's Challenge "for next year"

Lydart.........we should not allow him to drop from our forum  ;D

Wendi  :)
"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it!  No matter if I have said it,
unless it agrees with your own reason and with your own common sense" ~ Buddha

SCOTT ~ Monmouthshire & Glamorgan
BUCKLEY ~ Cork & Manchester
FRANKLIN ~ Clerkenwell, London
BRADY ~ Kildare & Manchester
DERICK ~ France
FRIEND ~ Kent & Portsmouth
TYLDESLEY ~ Lancashire
______________________________________
Census information posted here is Crown Copyright from The National Archives

Offline Lydart

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,272
    • View Profile
Re: Pte. E. Cope of Penallt
« Reply #33 on: Saturday 03 November 07 22:09 GMT (UK) »
If you look in the Commonwealth War Graves lists, there are about a dozen Pts E Cope's ... and checking them all on the 1901 census doesn't add anything !

He's a mystery !
Dorset/Wilts/Hants: Trowbridge Williams Sturney/Sturmey Prince Foyle/Foil Hoare Vincent Fripp/Frypp Triggle/Trygel Adams Hibige/Hibditch Riggs White Angel Cake 
C'wall/Devon/France/CANADA (Barkerville, B.C.): Pomeroy/Pomerai/Pomroy
Som'set: Clark(e) Fry
Durham: Law(e)
London: Hanham Poplett
Lancs/Cheshire/CANADA (Kelowna, B.C. & Sask): Stubbs Walmesley

WRITE LETTERS FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS TO TREASURE ... EMAILS DISAPPEAR !

Census information Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline warresearcher

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 25
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.natio
    • View Profile
Re: Pte. E. Cope of Penallt
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 04 November 07 01:58 GMT (UK) »
I have also checked the Commonwealth War Graves as he might have been form there with no great luck, although I have one E Cope from Canada who had a mother from Birmingham.
Trellech War Dead, Penallt war Dead and War Dead of Pontypridd Boys Grammar School.

Barrage Balloon activity in WWII See

www.bbrclub.org.

Offline liverpool annie

  • Deceased † Rest In Peace
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • ********
  • Posts: 13,434
  • Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Pte. E. Cope of Penallt
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 04 November 07 05:23 GMT (UK) »
Desperate times ... call for desparate measures !  ::)

There is a man called R Cope on the Monmouthshire County Council ..... maybe an email or phone call explaining your dilema .... might bring forth some answers !!

I checked these .... nothing there ! I also checked Canadian and Australian databases and went through them one by one .... checked WW1 pensions in case he died after the war ... nothing !

The only things I can think of are ......

1. His name has been spelt wrong
2. The Village were given a list and although they didn't recognise the name .... put it on out of       respect
3. He is the relation of a person who lived in Penaullt at the time .... who's name was NOT Cope !

Penalt Baptisms 1813 - 1900.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monfamilies/Penalt%20Baptisms%201813-1900.htm

Penalt Marriages 1837 - 1900 Male index
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monfamilies/Penalt+Marr+Male+1837+-+1900.htm

Marriages 1837 - 1930
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monfamilies/penalltmarr1837-1930.htm

I bet you've looked at every single grave stone here - haven't you ??



Cooper : Muels : Howarth : Every : Price : King

http://web.archive.org/web/20130407030702/http://www.freewebs.com/liverpoolannie

http://web.archive.org/web/20130407191115/http://manchestersoldiers.webs.com

http://web.archive.org/web/20130807102055/http://www.powv.webs.com/
Be who you are and say what you feel -  because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind ! Dr. Seuss

Erect no gravestone .... let the Rose every year bloom for his sake ! Rilke Sonnets to Orpheus, I