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Re: Pte. E. Cope of Penallt
« Reply #54 on: Saturday 19 January 08 09:13 GMT (UK) »
Yes Thank you that info was interesting. I was unable to find a WWI memorial anywhere with Nehemiah Miles named as a fallen soldier or having actually served! It may be he had moved away by then from this area.
I have  had a number of born Penalt or resided Penalt individuals as well as the vilages of Treleck and The Narth. However as far as I cn see he does not crop up locally for 1914 -1918.

 A local chap Bill Butler has transcribed the following roll of honour and done a nice job on it!!

TRANSCRIPT OF

THE ROLL OF HONOUR AT

CATBROOK MEMORIAL HALL, MONMOUTHSHIRE


1   CITATION

“FOR GOD KING & COUNTRY

To the men of the Parish of Trellech who
served in the Army, Navy, or Air Force in the
Great War  1914 – 1919”


2   Key

      Many entries in the Roll identify service in a campaign according to the following Key:-

   A = Africa   D = Dardanelles   E = Egypt   F = France and Belgium   I = India
   It = Italy   M = Mesopotamia   S = Salonica   P = Palestine      POW = Prisoner    of War

      In addition there are occasional symbols for Gassed  () and Wounded  (X)


3   “In Memoriam”  (Listed in the Central Panel of the Roll – see photograph)

Brown R. Pearce (Lt)         Gren. Guards         F
Davies A.J            5th Lon: Rfl: Bde      F
Davies E.J.            M. G. C.         F
Elliott H.            S. W. B.         F
James S.A.            R. E.            F
Howells W. (A.B.)         H.M.S. Indefatigable
Kinsey A. (Cpl:)         1st Mon. Regt.         F
Morgan C.            Gren. Guards         F
Morris G. (Sergt).         S. W. B.         F
Morris W. (L.Cpl).         1st Mon. Regt.         F
Parkyn L. (Died in Hospital of Pneumonia) 47th Can. Inf.
Reynolds W.            M. G. C.         F
Richards E.            Welsh Regt.         F & It
Tansill W.  (Stoker 1st Cl)      H.M.S. Indefatigable


4   “Roll of Honour”  (Surrounds the central “In Memoriam” listing)

Adams WW            Mon Regt.
X  Badham J            R. F. A.         F
Bailey H.            R. F. A.         F
Beach A.J.A            Welsh Regt.
X  Beaven C  (Cpl)         Welsh Regt.         F
Beaven J.            R. F. A.         F
Beaven T.A.            Aus. Lt Horse         E. D & F
Brown E.            R. E.            F
X  Brown H.            R. E.            F
Brown R.            R. E.
Brown V.            R. E.            F
Chandler T.B. (Sergt)         C. A. S. C.         F
Chandler W.F. (2nd Lt)      Artists Rifles.         F
Charles W.            R. E.            S
X  Davies E.W.         S. W. B.         F
Davies J.D.G. (Lt)         R. F. A.         F
Davies J.P. (Lt)         Sth Af. Force         A
Davies G.            R. A. S. C.
POW  Davies G (Cpl)    MM      K.S.L.I.         F
Davies F.R.            Welsh Regt.
Davies T. Morris (Lt)         Gloster Regt
Earlstone V.J            R. F. A.         F
Edmonds O.W.         Cheshire Regt         F
Edwards F.            R. A. S. C.         F
Edwards V. (Sergt)    MM &    R. A. S. C.         F
       Croix de Guerre
Ellaway A.E.            Canadian Eng [?]      F
Ellaway E.A.            R. E.            F
Ellward E.            R. E.            F
Evans F.J.            R.G.A.   
Evans J.J.  (Cpl)         R. E.            F
Evans H.D.            K. S. L I.         F
Evans T.H.         R. F. A.         F
Griffiths A.J.            Welsh Regt.
Griffiths W.            R. E.            F
Hanner R.H.            R. F. A.
Hobkirk C.J. (Brig Gen) CMG &   Essex Regt         F
                 DSO
Hoskins E.J.            1st Mon Regt         F
X  Hoskins T            M. G. C.         F
Howells H.            R. N. D
X  Jenkins A.T.         Welsh Guards         F
Jenkins W. (Cpl)         S. W. B.         I & M
Kinsey W.G.            Welsh Regt.         F
X  Kinsey T.E.            1st Mon. Regt         F
X  Knight D.            R. E.            F
Knight W.            R. F. A.
X  Lewis J            2nd Mon. Regt         F
X  Martin A.E.            Pembroke Yeo.      F
Morgan B            R. E.            F
Morgan C.            R. E.            F
Morgan C.E.            Mon. Regt.         F
Morgan D            K. S. L. I.
Morgan H.C.            S. W. B.         F
Morgan W.H.            S. W. B.         I & M
Morris G.H.            R. F. A.         F
Moulton W.H.            Dragoon Guards      F
Parker C.J.            1st Mon. Regt         F
Parker J.            R. F. A.         F
Parker S.            R. W. F.
Parry H.J.            R. A. S. C
Phillips C.J.            1st Mon. Regt         F
X  Phillips E.A. (Cpl)         R. N. D.         F. S. & D
Reynolds F.G.            R. F. A.         F. & E.
X  Reynolds V. (Cpl)         M. G. C.         F
X  Richards D.S. (L.Cpl)      Kings L'pool Regt      F
X  Richards N.J.         S. W. B.         F. & S.
X  Richards V.J. (L.Cpl)      S. W. B.         F
Roberts G.            S. W. B.         I
Roberts J            S. W. B.         I
Roberts R.U.            S. W. B.
Seriven C  (A. B.)         H.M.S. Revenge
Sterry J (Craftsman)         R. A. F.
Tansill F (Cpl)         S. W. B.         F
Tilley A.J.            Welsh Regt.
X  Thomas A.E.         R. A. M. C.         F
Tyler H.G. (Capt)         3rd Mon. Regt.         F
Vaughan A.W            R. E.            E. D.& P
Vaughan F.J.            R. E.            F
Vaughan G            R. E.            F
Vaughan L.G.            M. G. S. Canad.      F
Vaughan T.C.            R. A. V. C.         F
Walker A.G.                        S
X Watkins C.            R. E.            F
X  Watkins N.            S. W. B.         F
X  Wedlake W.W.         R. E.            F
Wheeler L.G.            M. T. & R. A. S. C.      F
Williams A.            R. E.            F
Williams A.H.            S. W. B.         I
Williams J.H. (Bugler)      1st Mon Regt.         F
Williams J.D. (Lt)         M. G. C.         F
Williams H.            Mon. Regt
Wintour J.            K. S. L. I.


Note:      Occasional inconsistencies and gaps suggest the information on the Roll of Honour was based on word of mouth rather than official records.


I attach a picture of a memorial plaque that came from the Penalt area and originally was supposedly in Chapel Farm that had a small chapel near Penalt.
This now is to be found in the Methodist Chapel at Trelleck. Unresearched at present.


Trellech War Dead, Penallt war Dead and War Dead of Pontypridd Boys Grammar School.

Barrage Balloon activity in WWII See

www.bbrclub.org.

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Re: Pte. E. Cope of Penallt
« Reply #55 on: Saturday 08 November 08 19:20 GMT (UK) »
Pte E. Cope has been found by RootsChat Warresearcher ...  ;D


Peter is sure he is actually Cpl. George ERIC Cope ... and as he has done the detective work, I think he should record it here ... please Peter !


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Re: Pte. E. Cope of Penallt
« Reply #56 on: Saturday 15 November 08 17:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi Lydart !

I'm catching up on treads and was glad to see that you discovered who he was before Nov. 11 this year  ;D

Well done for persevering, and well done Peter even if he is :-[   ;D

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Re: Pte. E. Cope of Penallt
« Reply #57 on: Saturday 15 November 08 18:20 GMT (UK) »
I just wish 'war Researcher' would come on here and tell the whole story ... its fascinating, but I dont want to steal his thunder !
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Re: Pte. E. Cope of Penallt
« Reply #58 on: Saturday 15 November 08 18:50 GMT (UK) »




Just tell him ... we're all waiting with bated breath .... ( oh ! and does he have a photograph ??  :D :D ..... we could maybe start looking for that next !! )
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Re: Pte. E. Cope of Penallt
« Reply #59 on: Saturday 15 November 08 18:54 GMT (UK) »
Yes he has a photo ...  :)


... he lives in the next village ... I'll try and find his phone number and contact him ...


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Re: Pte. E. Cope of Penallt
« Reply #60 on: Tuesday 09 December 08 13:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi, all! I see Peter hasn't updated lately, so I'll fill you in a bit. Found this George Eric Cope on Ancestry.co.uk, and have tried MANY times to contact the person who submitted the info. Can't get any reply from the guy....frustrating. Any ideas? I even tried dangling the carrot of providing info he didn't have on one of his relatives....but even after many emails to him, from both Peter and myself, no reply.

So, our guess about George ERIC Cope is our best guess, but no proof. However, we've been delighted with the response from the people in the area after Peter gave a presentation at the Trellech Chuch. Lots of people came forward and we have expanded our treasure trove of photos and info on many of the war dead of the area. And, we still have more coming in. 

What started out as a small labor of love for Peter has indeed become almost a local encyclopedia!! I'm proud of him and for the gift this will be to future generations when it's fully compiled!!

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Re: Pte. E. Cope of Penallt
« Reply #61 on: Tuesday 09 December 08 13:55 GMT (UK) »
Hello ..... (wifey ??)   :o


Its good to hear a bit more about the man we now believe to have been ERIC Cope ...

Do keep us updated if you here or find out anything else.   It was good to meet you at the Trellech Family History day ...
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C'wall/Devon/France/CANADA (Barkerville, B.C.): Pomeroy/Pomerai/Pomroy
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Durham: Law(e)
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Re: Pte. E. Cope of Penallt
« Reply #62 on: Tuesday 09 December 08 16:48 GMT (UK) »
There is only one George Eric Cope Birth in the entire country on  Free BMD on Ancestry.This is one born in 1898 in Wirral Cheshire.Try as I might I can't find such a George Cope in the 1901 Census.

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