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Re: Pte. E. Cope of Penallt
« Reply #36 on: Sunday 04 November 07 08:57 GMT (UK) »
There is a man called R Cope on the Monmouthshire County Council ..... maybe an email or phone call explaining your dilema .... might bring forth some answers !!

Like it  ;D

There is only one "E" Cope of suitable age on the Monmouthshire Census and they are in Ebbw Vale and appear to originally come from Somerset ???

RG13/4933 Folio 26 Page 4
Edward Cope  32 a Railway Engine Fireman
Emily Harriet Cope    28
Edward James Cope Ancestry have transcribed his age as 28 months, but it looks more like 27.8M to me !!!
Wm Frank Cope    7 months
   
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Re: Pte. E. Cope of Penallt
« Reply #37 on: Sunday 04 November 07 10:21 GMT (UK) »
Thats my picture of the church !

Did it come from Geograph ??

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Re: Pte. E. Cope of Penallt
« Reply #38 on: Sunday 04 November 07 14:28 GMT (UK) »


Lydart .... it was late last night - when I found a page of lovely out of the way churches !  :)

I should have added the url .... but I got so excited that the photograph stayed on the page - after doing it all by myself .... that I forgot to do it  ! ::) ...... I've been looking this morning and I can't find it ! .... sorry I didn't acknowledge you ....... if you know it off hand let me know and I'll add it under the photo !!

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Re: Update :Pte. E. Cope of Penallt and Noel Phillips
« Reply #39 on: Wednesday 02 January 08 18:55 GMT (UK) »
Just to let you all know that in desperation I have sent off for 4 death certificates for the Pvte E.Copes from WWI deaths.
I hope that one of these gives us a lead. Next I come to the WWII list at Penallt and we have a Sgt Noel Phillips listed on the memorial. Now I have failed to find any casualty with the name and rank of the above who might even fit the bill.

Any ideas welcome. I have tried CWGC and the deaths in WWII but nothing fits.

Any help appreciated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: Pte. E. Cope of Penallt
« Reply #40 on: Wednesday 02 January 08 19:27 GMT (UK) »


3 things come to mind Peter ! though knowing how thorough you have been .... you've probably been there ... done that !!  :)

1. Maybe E Copes was a woman ..... maybe she was a WW1 nurse
2. Maybe E Copes didn't die .... maybe he was included because he served .... AVL after 1918 may hold a clue
3. Maybe E Copes was a POW

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Re: Pte. E. Cope of Penallt
« Reply #41 on: Wednesday 02 January 08 22:06 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that Peter ... I hadnt realised there was another mystery on our war memorial !

Better get to work on it before next November ... when the weather gets a bit better !

Here's the church plaque ...
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Re: Pte. E. Cope of Penallt
« Reply #42 on: Friday 18 January 08 13:49 GMT (UK) »
Here is the good news..I know exactly where the names of the dead of WWI from Penallt can be found. The bad news is that they were all placed in a bottle along with the names of the memorial committe and placed UNDER the War Memorial Cross at the centre of the viilage!! (This actually was not uncommon!!)
No joking .................................so does anyone have any ideas of what to do next? JCB??Shovel and pick?!!

Also Private E Cope was actually Private E.T. Cope accordoing to the report of the unveiling of the War Memorial in the Beacon dated March 1920.

One step nearer!!
Any further ideas are welcome!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Peter
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Re: Pte. E. Cope of Penallt
« Reply #43 on: Friday 18 January 08 19:11 GMT (UK) »
Actually the date was 1921 not 1920!!
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Re: Pte. E. Cope of Penallt
« Reply #44 on: Friday 18 January 08 20:35 GMT (UK) »
Right ... I'll order the JCB soon and get the war memorial dug up !
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