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Re: Pte. E. Cope of Penallt
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 16 January 07 17:41 GMT (UK) »
i still cant find anything on e.cope.
2/Lt richard pearce-brown was 34 when he was killed on the somme in july 1916,he was serving in D.company 12th durham light infantry,during the evening of 16th july,his battalion advanced and took over trenches ready for an attack the next day,on the germans at pozieres,his company like the rest of the battalion was cut to pieces by machine gun fire while trying to cross the enemy wire,mack
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Re: Pte. E. Cope of Penallt
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 16 January 07 20:04 GMT (UK) »
Hi Lydart......just need to check, he is definately a Private isn't he?  No grey areas ???

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Re: Pte. E. Cope of Penallt
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 16 January 07 21:01 GMT (UK) »
Yes, definitely Pte. E Cope ... see attached picture of memorial which is in the church !
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Re: Pte. E. Cope of Penallt
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 16 January 07 21:08 GMT (UK) »
:D Thank you it's not that I doubted it, I just wanted to make absolutely sure, thanks..

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Re: Pte. E. Cope of Penallt
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 16 January 07 21:14 GMT (UK) »
Thanks also to Manmack for that ... I forsee a piece in the parish magazine coming up, or at least in the new village history book that two of us are working on.  I'm very grateful for what you have all found so far ...
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Re: Pte. E. Cope of Penallt
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 16 January 07 21:17 GMT (UK) »
Talking of Parish Magazines did you ever find one from around the period that the memorial was erected?

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Re: Pte. E. Cope of Penallt
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 16 January 07 21:22 GMT (UK) »
No I didn't ... but having been extremely busy over the Advent/Christmas season, and then with flu ... I've now got time to go to the museum and the newspaper archives, to see what I can find out ... will do, and report back.

Thanks for reminding me !
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Re: Pte. E. Cope of Penallt
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 17 January 07 07:04 GMT (UK) »
i got my mates to scour SDGW,theres no e.cope listed from penallt,they even checked to see how many soldiers were listed,who came from your village,there was only one,ive searched everywhere but theres nothing,just a thought,is he listed on your village memorial.you could also try the absent voters lists,if he was 21 or over and died in late 1918 he should be listed,mack
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« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 02 May 07 23:20 BST (UK) »
This is what I now have on E. Cope:
The war memorial was made by T Ballinger of Dingestow in 1920-21. It was unveiled on the 21st March 1921 in a ceremony organised by the Rev Heaume who asked his old friend the Mackintosh of Mackintosh, (The Highland Chieftain), to do the ceremony.

I have failed to find this ceremony reported in any of the local papers in the Monmouth Museum. I had hoped that this would be the case and that it might give the full name of every deceased soldier.

The only other bright light at the end of the tunnel is that according to the register of voters for 1915 there was a George Cope living at Fernview, Whitebrook (next to Penallt). I am presuming that he might have been the father.

If E. Cope had a first name beginning with E, then he must be one of :

Edward L Cope, Enos Cope, Ernest Arthur George Cope, all died 1917 or perhaps Edwin Cope died 1918.

I am wondering quite what to do next?
I will keep chipping away!!

Peter
Trellech War Dead, Penallt war Dead and War Dead of Pontypridd Boys Grammar School.

Barrage Balloon activity in WWII See

www.bbrclub.org.