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Offline Keziahemm

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Significance of Plumed Hat - Complete
« on: Saturday 11 November 06 15:06 GMT (UK) »
Why is this soldier wearing a plumed/feathered hat?  Is it part of ceremonial dress?

The photo was taken in Italy, year unknown,  he was in the Gloucestershire Regiment.
Herefordshire: Mytton.
Lincs: Ingham
Northants: Knight (Welford); Linnell;  Gaudern.
Staffs (Brierley Hill, Kingswinford): Wood; Eades.
Somerset: Bailey; Lewis
Warwickshire: (Alcester, Henley in Arden) Lewis; Casey/Keasey
Warwickshire (Birmingham suburbs) Knight
Yorkshire (Bradford):  Ingham


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Re: Significance of Plumed Hat
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 11 November 06 15:19 GMT (UK) »
Perhap she borrowed it from an italian soldier.

See this link

http://www.pbase.com/sproket/image/22275316
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: Significance of Plumed Hat
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 11 November 06 15:33 GMT (UK) »
It's WWI. Definitely British Army, although I did'nt know we were in Italy then. The headdress is Italian Bersaglieri. They were worn by Bersaglieri in WWII. Could be seen in N. Africa.

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Re: Significance of Plumed Hat
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 11 November 06 16:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi Roger,

The Photograph is in the form of a postcard sent from Italy, unfortunately the mark is unreadable (water damaged).  He was a regular in the Gloucestershire Regiment before WWI and during.  Here's another one from Italy in uniform but wearing his cap (standing at back).  Hoping to get his service records from Kew.

Susan
Herefordshire: Mytton.
Lincs: Ingham
Northants: Knight (Welford); Linnell;  Gaudern.
Staffs (Brierley Hill, Kingswinford): Wood; Eades.
Somerset: Bailey; Lewis
Warwickshire: (Alcester, Henley in Arden) Lewis; Casey/Keasey
Warwickshire (Birmingham suburbs) Knight
Yorkshire (Bradford):  Ingham


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Re: Significance of Plumed Hat
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 11 November 06 16:04 GMT (UK) »
Love the photo - would be great for a caption competition.  ;)
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: Significance of Plumed Hat
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 11 November 06 16:06 GMT (UK) »
Perhaps Paul E would like to borrow it  :D

Susan
Herefordshire: Mytton.
Lincs: Ingham
Northants: Knight (Welford); Linnell;  Gaudern.
Staffs (Brierley Hill, Kingswinford): Wood; Eades.
Somerset: Bailey; Lewis
Warwickshire: (Alcester, Henley in Arden) Lewis; Casey/Keasey
Warwickshire (Birmingham suburbs) Knight
Yorkshire (Bradford):  Ingham


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Re: Significance of Plumed Hat
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 11 November 06 17:11 GMT (UK) »
the 2nd batt was in macedonia and salonika,finished up at lake doiran,mack
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Re: Significance of Plumed Hat
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 11 November 06 18:30 GMT (UK) »
Thanks mack

Going to Kew at end of November, hopefully will find his records.

Susan  :)
Herefordshire: Mytton.
Lincs: Ingham
Northants: Knight (Welford); Linnell;  Gaudern.
Staffs (Brierley Hill, Kingswinford): Wood; Eades.
Somerset: Bailey; Lewis
Warwickshire: (Alcester, Henley in Arden) Lewis; Casey/Keasey
Warwickshire (Birmingham suburbs) Knight
Yorkshire (Bradford):  Ingham


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Re: Significance of Plumed Hat
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 12 November 06 02:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi
The 1/4th,1/5th,1/6th(T.F.) & 12th Service (Gloucestershire) Battalions were in Italy. But the Cap badge do's not look like the Gloucestershire Regiment cap badge. The badge was a Sphinx on a tablet 'Egypt' above a laurel spray with a scroll'Gloucestershire' below all in w/m, with no crown on it, your photo shows a badge with a crown ?. unless one of the TF battalions had there own cap badge. 
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