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Re: Reason for marriage
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 12 November 06 16:33 GMT (UK) »
A common occurrence in my families too, in fact some had several children before they eventually tied the knot. :) and some never did. :o
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Re: Reason for marriage
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 12 November 06 18:57 GMT (UK) »
I recently discovered and old tradition in the Borders (of England & Scotland for non-Bits members!) that couples could have a trial marriage for a year, and simply part if it didn't work out. If it resulted in a child, either party could still back out of the marriage, but they had to take care of the child.

And only a few days ago, I found that it seems my ggg grandparents got married the same day as the christening of their youngest child (the 7th!), my gg grandfather... I wonder if they got married because she was dying as a result of the birth?

I think the view we have of the 'upright' Victorian era actually comes from the hypocrisy of the middle and upper classes - nothing changes! Priestley's 'An Inspector Calls' is a pretty good example of this, as are most of Dickens' novels, and time and time again I come across examples of so-called Victorian 'morality'!!!
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Re: Reason for marriage
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 12 November 06 19:08 GMT (UK) »
Oops - should have been 'non-Brit members'  :-\
LONDON
Burrell, Whitechapel/Stepney
Sargent/Sargeant, Stepney/Mile End/Lexden (Essex); Press, Bethnal Green; Lombard
SUFFOLK
Flynn/Stewart/Metcalf, Bury St Edmunds
ROXBURGH
Armstrong, Yetholm/Heiton/Castleton
Riddle/Riddell/Riddel/Broomfield/McLeod/Fairbairn/Winnarsford/Whitherspels/Winnerspoons/Turnbull/Henderson/Anderson
Hall, Castleton; Tait, Eckford; Scott, Roberton; Hardie, Kelso
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McGaw, Kirkmaiden/Kirkinner; Maxwell/Boyd, Kirkmaiden; McKeand, Kirkinner
Flynn/Stewart/McWhirter/Kimmin

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Re: Reason for marriage
« Reply #30 on: Monday 13 November 06 12:56 GMT (UK) »

Sorry everyone but my Hannah still holds the record with eleven baseborn children, her only saving grace as far as I can see is that they did all have the same father. ;D

I've just been checking out her stats........

Of the six daughters one never married but still had four children, three had early babies and the other two died before they had a chance to get going.

Of the five sons, again two died and two had early babies - so the prize for "being good and staying pure"  :D goes to eldest son Francis who seems to be the only one to make it to the alter with his bride intact  :D

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Re: Reason for marriage
« Reply #31 on: Monday 13 November 06 13:03 GMT (UK) »
Suey

That must be a record!!!!!

But is it really one to be celebrated ;D ;D ;) ;)

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Re: Reason for marriage
« Reply #32 on: Monday 13 November 06 13:23 GMT (UK) »
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But is it really one to be celebrated   

Hi Kerry, As I'm stuck with Hannah as a 3 x great grandma and I can't very well hide her or the facts I may as well own up with bells on  ;D ;D

What I can't fathom out is why she and William never married there must have been a reason I just havn't found it yet :(

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Hertfordshire - Sturgeon. Bird. Rule. Claxton. Taylor. Braggins

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Re: Reason for marriage
« Reply #33 on: Monday 13 November 06 14:39 GMT (UK) »
Suey

With that many children between the two of them it really sounds like there must have been a reason why they didn't marry.

Was he already married or was there some reason her parents didn't approve of him or something??

How intriguing!!

Kerry
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Re: Reason for marriage
« Reply #34 on: Monday 13 November 06 14:41 GMT (UK) »
Suey

With that many children between the two of them it really sounds like there must have been a reason why they didn't marry.

Was he already married or was there some reason her parents didn't approve of him or something??

How intriguing!!

Kerry

Maybe they just couldn't make the time .....   ;D   ;D    ;D
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Re: Reason for marriage
« Reply #35 on: Monday 13 November 06 17:23 GMT (UK) »
I was born out of wedlock in 1933. I was brought up in a foster family and I was 66 years old when I found out who my father was.

It seems to me that some people have now found a new contraceptive,-------Staying on Rootschat all night!!!!!!