Reason for marriage

[kerryb]

LOL Deegee

I think my partner might agree with that

He has to drag me off each evening.  He'll be home soon perhaps I'd better think about dinner.

Kerry 

[patrish]

I have cheated, sent out for fish and chips, so more time on here. and no clearing up.

Patrish.

[suey]

Was he already married or was there some reason her parents didn't approve of him or something??

How intriguing!!

It's all very odd ,  William legitimised all the children in his will calling them his 'natural children' .  

There is no sign of him having a wife elsewhere

Hannahs father also left a will and named the nine children born up to that date as 'my grandchildren' - so no problem there either.
Having said that Hannah's father was nearly as bad, he left the bulk of his small estate to his own b****** son  

Gawd, what a family however it does make things interesting

Suey

[kerryb]

Sounds a bit like my great great grandmother's family. 

Helena Lorraine Lovekin Stanford Smith, so far I've not found a marriage for her parents and everytime I order what I think is a birth certificate for one of the nine children, the father's name that comes back is an unknown man, usually with the surname Lovekin, so far helena's siblings have a William Lovekin as father, a Henry Lovekins and a John Lovekin.

The father on the census records is John Smith or is it?

Oh and Helena's birth certificate, well so far after ordering 3 I think I have narrowed it down to one particular one that calls her Helena Rawlins with father William Rawlins.  The only linking factor on all these is the mother Emily Stanford.

Oh and in 1871 there appears to be two almost identical census records for the family.

I am now beginning to think they just liked a joke!!!!!

Kerry

[suey]

Lol Kerry,

Helena Lorraine Lovekin Stanford Smith

what a great name You have my commiserations   Have you ever found a Mr Lovekin?

- at least my lot were truthfull if at times a little confused as to which surname they should be using, all the surviving children, bar one, eventually made it to the alter, baptised and registered their children and told the truth at census time, so something to be grateful for 

Methinks there's something in the Sussex air, don't you

[kerryb]

Methinks there's something in the Sussex air, don't you

Methinks you could be right

Kerry

[julianb]

All this makes my family's "indiscretions" quite mild.  There had been some doubt about my father's grandparents  getting married (I don't think they did), and my mother said quite emphatically "But there's nothing wrong with my family". 

Well, up to a point, Lord Copper   

A few years ago when I started doing my research, she passed over some information a cousin of hers had gathered.  She quietly, discreetly, and perhaps sheepishly, pointed out that her grandparents had produced their first child before they were married.

Otherwise, given the evidence on the rest of this thread, I am just a little disappointeed that I have only one orphan, one illegitimate, and one set of married first cousins to show (so far).

JULIAN

[trish251]

Many thanks to everyone for the most interesting replies. I was initially thinking of all the "late" marriages in my families but comments have moved on to "no marriages" (and I have a couple of them) and even cousins. A couple of my family branches were very into cousins marrying cousins - I often think it was perhaps a good idea that some of them moved to Australia & found some new genes to mix with   

Suey's family were perhaps the frontrunners of what seems very common today - legal marriage is not a necessity for a good relationship. I was discussing with a friend today that divorce was so much more expensive than marriage - perhaps removing both from the list of events could be a very good idea.

Trish

[patrish]

Divorce is as expensive as you make it.  My ex and I mutually agreed on everything and remained good friends thoughout and still are 12 years later, its cost us hardly anything.  I know this is not always possible but the only winners in divorce are the lawyers.