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Indexes - Unfilmed Parts of the 1851 census
« on: Thursday 09 November 06 14:36 GMT (UK) »
I recently spent a very long time looking for people in the 1851 census and it was only after posting the question "is some of it missing?" that I learned parts of this census were not filmed, but I was told some people may have indexes.

I am looking for anyone with the name DEAVILLE, DE VILLE, DAVILL (and about another 30 spelling variants!) in the Salford and Manchester areas and would be very grateful if anyone could help.

Many thanks.

Jill
Jowett & Broadbent in Leeds.
Perry, Hartshorn/e & Wilkes in Birmingham & Dudley. Walker and Dabill in Sheffield & Notts.
Farrar in Darlington & Leeds.
Kidd & Taylor in Hartlepool & Teesside
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Re: Indexes - Unfilmed Parts of the 1851 census
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 09 November 06 20:03 GMT (UK) »
Jill
The 1851 Manchester & Salford census was badly damaged by water and illegible, but the M & L FHS used ultra violet light to recover 70 - 80% of the records, these are the Unfilmed, the remaining records were either missing or too badly damaged.

Anyway I have found these, hopefully they will be what your after.

1851 Regent Rd., Salford Unfilmed
27 Back St.
Sarah Deaville       Head     W       57      Shop Keeper       Alton, Staffordshire
Catherine Dennerley    Lodger   U   37     Seamstress        Isle of Wight


1851 Greengate, Salford Unfilmed
9 Pleasant St.
James Burton Deauville      Head       M     29      Stationer       Manchester
Ellen Deauville                    Wife        M     29                            Salford
James B Deauville               Son                  1                            Salford
William Deauville                 Son                 3M                          Salford


2 Simms St
Smith Deaville         Head    M    31     Letter Press Printer J/Man    Salford
Ann Deaville            Wife     M    33                                                  Salford
Jane Deaville           Dau             7                                                   Salford
Maria Deaville          Dau             5                                                   Salford
Mary Deaville           Dau             2                                                   Salford
William E Deaville     Son            5M                                                 Salford

Hope this helps
Regards, Dave
       

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Re: Indexes - Unfilmed Parts of the 1851 census
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 09 November 06 20:37 GMT (UK) »
Absolutely spot on Dave!  These are the ones who have been making my head hurt!

Thanks a million!

Jill
Jowett & Broadbent in Leeds.
Perry, Hartshorn/e & Wilkes in Birmingham & Dudley. Walker and Dabill in Sheffield & Notts.
Farrar in Darlington & Leeds.
Kidd & Taylor in Hartlepool & Teesside
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Re: Indexes - Unfilmed Parts of the 1851 census
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 09 November 06 21:49 GMT (UK) »
Jill
Pleased the families are yours.

I found these in the Manchester Trade Directories, (you may have this already)

1846 Slaters Manchester Trade

James B. Deaville, 
Butter Factor & Irish Butter Importer,
216 Deansgate & 60 Rusholme Rd. Chorlton on Medlock

1848 Manchester Trade Directory

Joseph Deaville
Grocer & Tea Dealer
Rusholme Rd

1863 Slaters Manchester & Salford Trade

James B. Deaville
Tobacconist
134 Broughton Rd. Salford

Regards, Dave


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Re: Indexes - Unfilmed Parts of the 1851 census
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 09 November 06 21:58 GMT (UK) »
Wonderful!  Thanks again Dave - I didn't have them!

These are not exactly 'my' family...yet!  With so many spelling variations on the name I have ended up doing a kind of unofficial one name study to try and link them all together and hope that in the end they turn out to be 'Dabill' of Nottinghamshire!

Thanks again - every bit helps!

Jill
Jowett & Broadbent in Leeds.
Perry, Hartshorn/e & Wilkes in Birmingham & Dudley. Walker and Dabill in Sheffield & Notts.
Farrar in Darlington & Leeds.
Kidd & Taylor in Hartlepool & Teesside
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Re: Indexes - Unfilmed Parts of the 1851 census
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 09 November 06 22:23 GMT (UK) »
Jill
And there's more!
1929 Kelly's Manchester Directory

Mrs Ada Deauville, Shopkeeper, 34 Erskine Rd. Harpurhey
Miss Constance Deavill, 49 Grimshaw Lane, Newton Heath
Ernest Deaville, Printer, 32 Grosvenor Rd. Crumpsall
Frederick Deaville, 8 Hartington Rd. Chorlton cum Hardy
George Deaville, 8 Beard Rd. Gorton
Joseph Deaville, Traveller, 36 Webster St. Gorton
William Deaville, 35 Scales St. Seedley, Salford
F.A. Deaville, Shipping Merchant, 30 Clyde Rd. West Didsbury

also from the
Policemen in Manchester Index
Alfred James Deaville
Joined - 4/10/1888
Age - 25
Birthplace - Stockport, Cheshire
Religion - C of E
Status - Single

Hope this Helps
Dave


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Re: Indexes - Unfilmed Parts of the 1851 census
« Reply #6 on: Friday 10 November 06 10:47 GMT (UK) »
Dave

You are doing a great job!  I know about Alfred being a policeman but didn't have the details, and a few of the other names look familiar too.  I will check them all out and follow them up as best I can.

Many thanks again.

Jill
Jowett & Broadbent in Leeds.
Perry, Hartshorn/e & Wilkes in Birmingham & Dudley. Walker and Dabill in Sheffield & Notts.
Farrar in Darlington & Leeds.
Kidd & Taylor in Hartlepool & Teesside
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Re: Indexes - Unfilmed Parts of the 1851 census
« Reply #7 on: Friday 10 November 06 19:50 GMT (UK) »
Jill
I looked for the name DABILL, no luck I'm afraid.
I did find these:

1821 - 1822 Manchester & Salford Directory

Eli Deavill     Grocer      Norton St., Salford

S & E Deavill     Grocers      44 Hanging Ditch, Manchester

Smith Deavill     Grocer       Pendleton, Salford 

I will keep looking for DABILL

Regards, Dave

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Re: Indexes - Unfilmed Parts of the 1851 census
« Reply #8 on: Friday 10 November 06 20:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi Dave,

I don't think you will find any Dabill in Lancashire.  You might find De Ville, Devile, Deavell, Deyville but nothing with a 'B' in it.

In the Nottingham area they are Dabill, Deabill, Davil and Daybell.  In Derbyshire they become Deabell and Deavell, in Staffordshire they are anything without the 'B' and by the time they get to Lancashire they seem to have become mostly Deaville, but there always the totally misspelt Doiuvoilles etc.!

You set me another poser with the Joseph you found in a Trade Directory - Grocer & Tea Dealer.  I've been searching for him this afternoon (he becomes a German Yeast Merchant) but I rather think he and his wife Frances travelled quite a lot because I can only find them together in 1861 - and of course not at all in 1851.
He is quite interesting to me because he originates from Leek, Staffordshire, so most likely ties in with some I already have!

Many thanks for these others.  I know about Eli & Smith - wonder who S & E were?

I owe you one Dave - in fact more than one!

Jill
Jowett & Broadbent in Leeds.
Perry, Hartshorn/e & Wilkes in Birmingham & Dudley. Walker and Dabill in Sheffield & Notts.
Farrar in Darlington & Leeds.
Kidd & Taylor in Hartlepool & Teesside
Census information is crown copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk