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Re: WWI medallion for the dead
« Reply #27 on: Friday 10 November 06 17:12 GMT (UK) »
Oh Aghadowey

Thank you, thank you.  How dumb am I, I had been to that site 3 or 4 times and had printed out the first page, not realizing there were 42 pages.  Doh!!! 

Lones

Lones, you are not alone...I didn't realise either that there were more pages until I read this here. I've just spent the last half hour looking at the records of Patrick Grant Margetts of 23rd Bn Australian Infantry...all 50 pages instead of just the one that I had copied months ago    :)

Thank you aghadowey, for putting us straight   :) These records are brilliant.

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Re: WWI medallion for the dead
« Reply #28 on: Friday 10 November 06 17:51 GMT (UK) »
Elaine- glad you were able to find the rest of the pages.

I have never seen any Dead Man's Pennies mounted on gravestones here in Northern Ireland, so perhaps it's just the custom in Scotland. I have seen them in estate auctions where an elderly relative has died and there are either no relatives or no one in the family wants them.

There are lots of mistakes in the CWGC info. A friend contacted them regarding some errors he found about where 2 soldiers' gravestones were located and was told if he could supply details, birth & death certificates, etc. then they would consider making the correction...
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« Reply #29 on: Friday 10 November 06 21:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi Folks

I too am horrified that people could steal these tributes to bravery from a headstone, it is unbelievable how low some people will stoop.  I also have never seen them on a headstone here in australia, I understand the BWMP, but what does CWGC stand for?  I had never actually heard of these medallions until ours was handed to me, there was no family story or anything, it was a real surprise, so although these may have been common here once, many of my generation would be ignorant like me!! 

Elaine, I am glad this posting has helped you out too, and that I am not altogether stupid.  You are right it is a brilliant site and we all owe Aghadowey a huge thank you.

Anne, what wonderful volunteer work you do, that must be both interesting and rewarding, well done.  Although you must find it irritating and disappointing when you come across such blatant disregard for the dead.

Rest assured everyone, that our medallion will not be found on ebay.  I am mounting it and placing small copies of the letters that came with it beside it in the frame.  I will try to ensure if my children don't want it, it passes to a family member who does, but who can ever be sure of ones possessions once one is dead?

Here's hoping

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Re: WWI medallion for the dead
« Reply #30 on: Friday 10 November 06 21:47 GMT (UK) »
Somebody had my grandfather's plaque framed many years ago - the frame is circular and just fits neatly round the plaque, which is protected behind glass.  I never got the certificate with it - no idea what happened to that!

It's a bit spooky having a DMP from WW1 with your own name and initials on it!  I'm on the local war memorial, too!!   :-\

Talk about checking the obituaries before getting out of bed!   ???

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Re: WWI medallion for the dead
« Reply #31 on: Friday 10 November 06 22:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi Bill

I have heard of people who have been named after their dead siblings and they don't like it either, they spend their lives visiting graves with their name on them, pretty intimidating!!

I was going to use a round frame, but then decided I would put small copies of the letters on either side of the medallion, so I will use an oblong frame with three sections, I think.  Not really sure yet.

Cheers

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Re: WWI medallion for the dead
« Reply #32 on: Saturday 11 November 06 10:46 GMT (UK) »
There are two for sale on eBay now, they are up to £840.
They are for two brothers.
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Re: WWI medallion for the dead
« Reply #33 on: Saturday 11 November 06 11:23 GMT (UK) »
Lones,

CWGC stands for Commonwealth War Graves Commission.

http://www.cwgc.org

Anne.

P.S. pettsy - I hope they're not the two brothers from the stone I posted a photo of!!!

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Re: WWI medallion for the dead
« Reply #34 on: Saturday 11 November 06 11:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ann,
I saw that grave, that is a terrible thing to do.
I don't know how anyone could do such a thing  >:(
I didn't even realise that is what they somethimes did in Scotland.
My five Scottish brothers (g grandfather and his four brothers all died overseas)
I would love to find their Death Plaques on day.

The ones for sale on eBay are now up to £1,022.99
They are for the Tratman brothers it says from the Glos Reg.
With medals etc......
The sellers g uncles.

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Re: WWI medallion for the dead
« Reply #35 on: Saturday 11 November 06 11:59 GMT (UK) »

The ones for sale on eBay are now up to £1,022.99

That is obscene - I don't think they should be allowed to sell them, they should be returned to next of kin/family or kept in local museums or something..

how awful  :(
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