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Re: WWI medallion for the dead
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 08 November 06 22:14 GMT (UK) »
Website is www.cwgc.co.uk (click on Memorial Plaques down left part of page). From this you should be able to find when and where medallion was made, etc.

Did you look up actual records online yet? This will give details of medals and plaques, etc.
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Re: WWI medallion for the dead
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 08 November 06 23:51 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Aghodowey


I have looked up the Australian records and found he died of menangitis.  I also found the ship he was embarked on.  I have printed off copies of everything I found on him and his two brothers who survived the war.  The poor love didn't get any medals or distinctions, he didn't live long enough to arrive.  He is listed on the honour roll and I have found the site listing where his plaque is in Canberra, but I assume he would have been buried at sea.  I will check that out with the officials at the war office (or whatever it's called).

I will check out the site you have listed too, thank you for that.  I really do appreciate all of the help you have given me.  I also found copies of the letters etc that were sent to the families, so have taken copies of them to see if anyone in the family can recognise them to see if anyone has the originals, not holding my breath on that one though

Thank you once again

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Re: WWI medallion for the dead
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 09 November 06 09:27 GMT (UK) »
National Archives papers (website I sent earlier) should list in his file when and where buried. There are probably lots of men with the same name but if you have service number or birthdate you can narrow down the search to correct soldier. Good luck.
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Re: WWI medallion for the dead
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 09 November 06 10:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi Aghadowey

Yes I have looked up his records and found he is listed under Cemetery or Memorial details as "Chatby Memorial, Alexander Egypt".  So if it is only a memorial, he probably was buried at sea, but it doesn't actually state that.  I will see what the war record people send me and go from there.  I also got the ship he was embarked on and the list with his name on it, so am really stoked.  I had no information on him at all and now I am getting heaps.  I feel really obliged to do this now as he appears to have been forgotten by everyone and we can't have that.  So I am resurrecting him so to speak so he can have his own page in the family album.

I really do appreciate all of your help, I didn't even know where to start and now I am really happy with everything that I have found.  I also expect more information when I get my reply from the officials so who knows, he may need two pages!!

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Re: WWI medallion for the dead
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 09 November 06 11:29 GMT (UK) »
Think the records you are referring to are different than the oines I mean. Scanned copies of the actual records (could be 30 or more pages) are available online at National Archives of Australia website. They usually show enlistment forms, medical records, medal records, sometimes Will is shown or letters from relatives, etc. Have you looked at that site????
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Re: WWI medallion for the dead
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 09 November 06 11:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Well apparently not!!  I went to the National Archives site and did a search and I never found any of that, only what I have already mentioned, nothing like 30 pages.  I have his enlistment paper, which he signed (brilliant) and his ship listing, the roll of honour thingy, his memorial place, a copy of the particulars required for the roll of honour and that's it.  Nothing else came up.  Where should I be searching?  I did the search under his name and his service number 442.  I also tried his series number B2455.  Can I try anything else, or was I on the wrong site?  Sorry to sound dense, but I didn't get anything like what you are refferring to.  I would love to get that stuff, as I have three other great uncles who served in that war too and I could get their information as well. 

Please help.  Pretend I am a complete imbicile and take me by the hand, you know, A goes onto B, B goes onto C, that kind of thing.  I really would appreciate your help, is there two National archive websites maybe?

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Re: WWI medallion for the dead
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 09 November 06 12:37 GMT (UK) »
trooper william,henry smith
13th australian light horse[the devils own]raised at broadmeadow,march 1915
442
age 32
born,chetwynd,victoria
enlisted,haitchie,victoria
educated,maude,new south wales.
occupation,farmer
father,william,henry smith,haitchie post office,victoria.
died of meningitis on board a troopship on his way to egypt,buried at sea.
left australia,28-5-15
mack
arrived in egypt,29-6-15
manchester regiment,ww1

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Re: WWI medallion for the dead
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 09 November 06 12:45 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mack

Thank you, I have found almost all of that, but not the bits about buried at sea and where he was educated.  What record was that on and did you come across any of the items aghadowey mentioned?  I only got very limited information and it was all over the shop, so to speak.  I had to do several searches and each one gave me a different bit of info.  I really suck at this war searching stuff!!! ???

Can you please tell me what did you search under and where?

Thanks Mack

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Ashwell, Buckminster Leicester
Brown, Kent
OBrien/Brien, Cork
Dunstan, Stithians Corwall
Beard, Stithians Corwall
Penman, Midlothian, Perth or Fife
Dick, Fife
Ruddock, Staindrop Durham
Willis, Ingleton Durham
Gibbon, Kirkby Ravensworth
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Re: WWI medallion for the dead
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 09 November 06 13:01 GMT (UK) »
Lones- found file online. Go to National Archives of Australia website: //naa12naa.gov.au
Next, click on "Guest"
Put in "William Henry Smith Chetwynd"
One result comes up- go to this and click on digital record.
There are 42 pages.

p.4- "Died at sea on Board SS Persic on 16/6/15 of pneumonia and meningitis"
p.9- embarked at Melbourne "Persic" 28/5/15
p.11/12- error on Chatbyand and Kantara Memorial Register
p.14- receipt for memorial plaque (signed by father 16/8/22)
p. 17- letter from father re: property
p.18- detailed letter re: illness/death- place of burial Indian Ocean, reported sick 7 am, died 10am (also see p.34)
 p.41- medals
p.42- memorial plaque

You should also be able to look up your other Australian relatives on the site. Happy reading.
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