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Mill Hall, Aylesford in the 1820's - what or where was it exactly?
« on: Tuesday 07 November 06 22:38 GMT (UK) »
Hi, Everyone,
I've just come across the birthplace (in about 1824/5) of a man I've been trying to trace, Robert CARTER, as being given as Mill Hall.  Until this moment, I'd had his place of birth given as simply "Aylesford".
I notice when I google, Mill Place, Aylesford, that there appears to be a Mill Place Industrial Estate in Aylesford at the present time.
Does anyone know what or where Mill Hall might have been in the Aylesford area as long ago as the 1820's?
Very many thanks,
keith

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Re: Mill Hall, Aylesford in the 1820's - what or where was it exactly?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 08 November 06 09:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi Keith

If you look at the Aylesford Tithe award schedule, you will see that there were several people "occupying" land at "Mill Hall"

http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Maps/Maps%20intro.htm

Unfortunately, the accompanying map isn't online to show you the exact location of these fields and wood but there is an 1869 map which shows Mill Hall http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ - search by co-ordinate/grid ref.  572189,158666 

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Re: Mill Hall, Aylesford in the 1820's - what or where was it exactly?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 08 November 06 09:14 GMT (UK) »
Casalguidi,
That's wonderful!  Thanks so much for supplying those links for me.  I find it strange that after several Census entries for this individual that simply gave his birthplace as Aylesford, the much more specific Mill Hall was given in the 1871 Census.
keith
N.B. I'm still trying to find the marriage of Robert CARTER's parents, Robert and Elizabeth (nee unknown as yet).  As Robert junior appears to be the firstborn child, it's quite possible that his birthplace was associated with his mother, and therefore I'll study and refer to that list of names associated with Mill Hall with renewed interest - perhaps Elizabeth's family are there somewhere...

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Re: Mill Hall, Aylesford in the 1820's - what or where was it exactly?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 08 November 06 09:31 GMT (UK) »
Casalguidi,
Sorry, it's me again, all excited about the precision of the location of Mill Hall on that 1869 map - right next to Aylesford Station.  Can you deal with my ignorance on such matters, and give me some kind of date for those Tithe Awards...
Many thanks,
keith


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Re: Mill Hall, Aylesford in the 1820's - what or where was it exactly?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 08 November 06 10:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi Keith

As far as I can make out ;D

Aylesford = Ayl on the following map (mid right on the central yellow area) http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Maps/LofKPW.htm

and is the section with horizontal lines immediately to the left of the black section in the near middle left of the following map
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0w9/

So it looks like the apportionment was confirmed c1839-1841 and the map compiled 1839-1841 too
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0wa/

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Re: Mill Hall, Aylesford in the 1820's - what or where was it exactly?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 08 November 06 10:02 GMT (UK) »
If you look under Aylesford on the Here's History Kent website (www.hereshistorykent.org.uk) you will find a number of maps of the area at different times.  It is identified as Mill Hall on Greenwood 1821, Mudge 1801 and as Millhole on Symonson 1596.  My own copy of Andrews and Drury 1769 shows it as Millhole.

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Re: Mill Hall, Aylesford in the 1820's - what or where was it exactly?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 08 November 06 10:13 GMT (UK) »
Casalguidi - again! and now Mike,
This is becoming a quite fascinating topic.  How fortunate that Robert CARTER decided to be more precise with his birthplace to the 1871 Census enumerator.
I've not come across that Here's History Kent Website before, and shall spend some time poring over those maps now...
Very many thanks,
keith

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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 08 November 06 14:52 GMT (UK) »
Mike (Corsend),
Just a further note from me to say how thought-provoking those maps were to study even more closely.  It seems that Mill Hall was a separate settlement or hamlet, rivalling Aylesford in size early on. It's variously marked as:
MYLHALL in Saxton's 1575 map
MYLHOLE Symondson 1596
no mention in Parker 1719
MILL HALE in Hasted 1778
MILL HALL in Mudge 1801
MILL HALL (I think, just off the small section of map given) in Greenwood 1821

Obviously a place with a long and ancient history...!
Many thanks again.
keith

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Re: Mill Hall, Aylesford in the 1820's - what or where was it exactly?
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 29 June 10 13:06 BST (UK) »
Can i help?

I live in Mill Hall  ;D

I actually live in one of the cottages associated with the big Manor house (Mill Hall), and have photo's of that if required (it's since been part demolished)..

Mill Hall is indeed right by Aylesford Station..

Mike