Ship owners - Sunderland & South Shields

[TKidd]

Hello Westoe,
I could not open that message, I also sent you the Photographs on either the first or second contact or at least my son in law did.
Regards Terry

[TKidd]

Hello Westoe,
We also visited the Orchard and the original barns and photographed what was Huttons house, much changed from the photographs I have. We also visited Melbourne and the property another branch of the family lived.
Regards Terry
PS I am away for the weekend in the next 2 hours

[Westoe]

Hello Terry,

No, no photographs came. If they had, they would have appeared here on the forum just as the text you type does (as in posts #31, #87 of this thread).

The Melbourne information is of interest. On at least one of their voyages, Harriet and Milicent named a Kidd in Melbourne as next-of-kin, but as it was only an initial and no address, it wasn't very helpful.

Cheers,
Westoe

[TKidd]

If so why did I not have the other message. I will seek help after the weekend

[Westoe]

Hello Terry,

Erm ... yes, you did get the first PM because you have replied  to it.

It's a bit confusing at the beginning. Let me explain.

We now have two conversations going on simultaneously; this one on the public thread which anyone with a computer can read, and a private one by PM which only you and I can see.

At the very top margin of this page you will see text that says:
"Welcome back, TKidd, you have *** messages, *** are new."

When you hover the cursor over the word "messages", it becomes underlined indicating that it is a link. Click on that word for entry to the parallel conversation. That will give you your message 'Inbox' to see what I have sent you. Near the top of that page is a link labelled 'Outbox' where you can review what you have sent me. Any information about living people should be exchanged privately.

Cheers,
Westoe

[Westoe]

When Charles H. K. joined the air force, he gave his Auntie Dickinson's address as his home address and his previous occupation as chauffeur.

[gumball]

The Fornear Family built and sailed ships from South Shields.  They married into the Couper family who sailed on the Fornear ships.
I am searching for the ship on which great, grandfather John Robert Fornear Couper came to Australia.
He was still in South Shields on the 1881 Census and the next time I can find him is at the time of his marriage in January 1886 in Wallsend, Newcastle, Australia.

Any suggestions would be gratefully received.

Gumball

[Cherielynn]

I have missed too much, I am glad to see more posted on the Ship owners descendants through the Thompsons and Lees to the Kidds.

[Cherielynn]

Hello Westoe,
My son in law typed the previous replies because he is an IT man and has assisted me in opening your replies.
According to James Hutton Kidd death certificate dated 30/9/1913 John Kidd and Mary Jane Kidd nee Hutton were his parents from Castle Blayney Ireland [I have contacted census for info].

I can send you the census records from the time they moved to Lancashire if you like. And I have made a memorial for John Kidd Sr online. I am not sure how to reference it so I hope that Westoe will do that for me.

The 1845 birth cert for my John Kidd Jr names his mother as Mary Jane Nee Hutton, father John Kidd Sr. All that makes perfect sense. I also saw in some list which I will have to try to find again (my memory is truly keeping worse by the month) of a John Kidd pawnbroker and he might have been in Castleblayney - I will search. There was also a post I saw ages ago of someone who had Hutton info and I think that too was Castleblaney.

In 1851, in Armagh, John Kidd married a Mary Jane Walker and I have that marriage record. For that marriage there was also a newspaper notice in Liverpool for that marriage and names the correct address for John Kidd matching the 1851 census address John Kidd to Mary Jane Walker. Then in 1862 Mary Jane Walker Kidd died and there is also a newspaper notice for that, also at the correct address for our John Kidd that matches the 1861 census address, noting the passing of Mary Jane wife of John Kidd, Mary Jane the third daughter of the late Abraham Walker.

So my goal now is to locate the marriage of John Kidd and Mary Jane Hutton and locate the death record of Mary Jane Hutton Kidd which must be before 1851. Whether she would have died in Castleblayney or in Liverpool makes the search that much more difficult.

regards to all, the rapidly aging Kidd