Ship owners - Sunderland & South Shields

[TKidd]

Hello

I have some further information regarding the Kidd family.

Regards

Terry

[Westoe]

Hello Terry,

Greetings. Which branch of the Kidd family - Ireland, England, New Zealand, Australia or America? And are you also hunting for information?

Cheers,
Westoe

[TKidd]

My grandfather was Charles Havelock Kidd who cames to the UK from New Zealand approx 1917 and moved to Cardiff, Wales in about 1919. My father was born in Cardiff.

Terry

[Westoe]

Hello again, Terry,

Aha!!  So your grandfather was the sixth child of Harriet Alice (Lee) Kidd and James Kidd - correct? We'd lost him. From his brother's obituary we believed that he was still alive in 1945, but didn't know where he was living. Splendid. Thank you for posting.

Have you read the whole of this thread? There is quite a bit about the Lees and the Kidds here. Also New Zealand BMD's are online. You can find your grandfather's birth there if you don't already have that. My apologies - this laptop has no right-click functions so I can't post the link tonight, but Google will find it easily.

Cheers,
Westoe

[Westoe]

P. S. Terry,

What was your grandfather's occupation? And did his siblings Milicent and Rowland?/Roland? have middle names? They are the only ones I don't have full names for.

Cheers,
Westoe

[TKidd]

My grandfather came to the UK in 1917. He joined the Royal Flying Corp and was given the rank of Pilot Officer on demob. He married in London and worked for a company called Lewis and Tyler, makers of endless belting. They had a branch in Cardiff where he moved with them as a mechanical engineer.

Can you confirm what your relationship is with the Kidds or the nature of your research.

Regards

Terry

PS unfortunately I do not know the names of the siblings.

[Westoe]

Hello Terry,

My grandfather came to the UK in 1917. He joined the Royal Flying Corp and was given the rank of Pilot Officer on demob.

So this is he - near top of Column 2:
http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/exact=Havelock+Kidd/start=1

Can you confirm what your relationship is with the Kidds or the nature of your research.

I am not directly interested in the Kidds, because they are not connected to the sea tho', (smile), this spring I am planting an apple tree of the variety "Kidd's Orange Red" bred by your grandfather's older brother James Hutton Kidd. I tasted that apple for the first time last fall.

Your paternal great-grandmother was Harriet Alice (Lee) Kidd.

Your 2G grandmother was Ann (Thompson) Lee.

Your 3G grandfather was Enoch Donkerley Thompson, master mariner, shipowner, alderman and political activist and he does interest me.

Some of your distant Thompson cousins are actively doing genealogy and we share information. I am more comfortable with the computer than they, so I do most of the internet postings.

PS unfortunately I do not know the names of the siblings.

I give those in post #105 of this thread. Post #104 has several links of interest. That post is from a descendant of Harriet Alice Lee's older sister, Mary Caroline Lee, who married John Kidd, brother to your paternal great-grandfather.

Speaking of aldermen, another of Harriet Alice Lee's older sisters, Anne Mary Lee, was married to a long-serving alderman of Jarrow and she is mentioned in the newspapers as "Mrs. Alderman Dickinson".

Your grandfather would have had Lee cousins in Cardiff when he went there - children of his namesake uncle, Charles Havelock Lee.

Did your grandfather have a daughter Blanche?

Cheers,
Westoe

[TKidd]

Hello Westoe,
My son in law typed the previous replies because he is an IT man and has assisted me in opening your replies.
According to James Hutton Kidd death certificate dated 30/9/1913 John Kidd and Mary Jane Kidd nee Hutton were his parents from Castle Blayney Ireland [I have contacted census for info].
Charles Havelock Kidd had 2 Chidren my father Hubert born 1920 and my aunty Millicent both family names neither with us now, and my father did not impart any info other than Kidd Apples in New Zealand which my Wife and I visited recently in Greytown.

[Westoe]

my father did not impart any info other than Kidd Apples in New Zealand which my Wife and I visited recently in Greytown.

Hello Terry,

I sent you another reply earlier today via PM (personal message). Have you managed to open it?

When you were in Greytown recently, did you visit the cemetery there? Did you photograph headstones? There are two there of which I would like to get photographs for your cousins.

And here's the link to New Zealand BMD's:
https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Home/


Cheers,
Westoe