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Re: Ship owners - Sunderland & South Shields
« Reply #81 on: Tuesday 17 March 09 14:42 GMT (UK) »

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Quote from: jennyM on Thursday 12 March 09 13:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Westoe,
No his Father was George Lord & Mother Elizabeth Chapman. John Chapman born 1834, did have a brother George but no William. His Father George had a brother William though.
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Jenny


Hi Jenny,

Don't suppose your George Lord was born in Sunderland in 1829 and recorded as a shipbroker? (Daughter Emily?) 
 
 
 Anniemudge:
Yes thats right George Lord brother to my John Chapman Lord married Eliza Jane Lister and had Emily Lord 1855.
BOYLE Ireland(DON/Doe Point, Creeslough) 
COYLE  Ireland(DON/Derrynamansher)  
DAWSON (HAM/Ryde, Cowes ,Isle of Wight/1815-1915)    
MCDONNELL (Mallow,Cork1860-1940)

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Re: Ship owners - Sunderland & South Shields
« Reply #82 on: Saturday 04 April 09 21:47 BST (UK) »


....I have also found Mary Thompson nee Logan in the 1861 census....

JULIAN

A niggley little item to tidy up. Her name was not Mary Thompson, but Mary Ann Thompson.

Ann, Mary and Mary Ann are three separate and distinct names. It is not uncommon to find families with three living daughters named so.

Look at  this family.  EDT and  Mary Ann had daughters Ann (named for her grandmothers) who married LEE and Mary Ann (named for her mother) who married HENZELL.

The name Mary Ann, with spelling variations, persists in the Thompson families.

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Re: Ship owners - Sunderland & South Shields
« Reply #83 on: Saturday 04 April 09 22:25 BST (UK) »
Just thought I'd summarise where I am with this very interesting set of families.  It seems bankruptcy was more of a likelihood for them than not. .....he went bankrupt twice .....he went bankrupt in 1865 ......  filed for bankruptcy in 1861 ..... bankrupt 1871..... 1879 filed for bankruptcy .....

JULIAN

Another niggley item. It is somewhat mean-spirited to  lay so much emphasis on the bankruptcies.

These were smallish family-owned businesses. Unlike the Enron and Hollinger executives, it was their own money they lost. And they were operating in a far different marketplace than today's - no gov't grants, no tax incentives, no affirmative-action incentives and when they got into trouble, no taxpayer-funded bail-outs.

Bankruptcy was as constant a possibility in those times as cholera, infant mortality and the workhouse. The Gazettes and the newspapers carry thousands of bankruptcy notices.

What did these people do when that happened? They picked themselves up, tightened their belts, most often tried something else and went to work building up again.

Emphazing the bankruptcies, as you have done, implies that these were shameful people. They were not.

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Westoe

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Re: Ship owners - Sunderland & South Shields
« Reply #84 on: Sunday 05 April 09 19:37 BST (UK) »
Was Archibald Henry LEE,  (son of Charles Havelock LEE and Florence), an officer in the Welsh Rifles in WWI?

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Re: Ship owners - Sunderland & South Shields
« Reply #85 on: Sunday 08 November 09 20:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi

If you go to the Library, in the reference part ask for ,' The Dictionary of Tyne Sailing Ships' it is a great book and names all the ships and owners and their sailing destinations, it might just have what you are looking for.. If you can not find it in Sunderland I'm sure Newcastle central library will have a copy.

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Re: Ship owners - Sunderland & South Shields
« Reply #86 on: Saturday 21 November 09 12:08 GMT (UK) »
re earlier question from Westoe

Archibald Henry Lee did serve in the Welsh Regiment during WW1 -  in particular in Egypt . I believe he was a captain

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Re: Ship owners - Sunderland & South Shields
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Re: Ship owners - Sunderland & South Shields
« Reply #88 on: Tuesday 24 November 09 21:24 GMT (UK) »
Dear Westoe

This is indeed him - Thank you so much for the link much appreciated



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Re: Ship owners - Sunderland & South Shields
« Reply #89 on: Wednesday 27 January 10 06:15 GMT (UK) »
Was the Henry Havelock LEE, tobacconist in Builth Wells c. 1934, a descendant  of the  Anne (Thompson) and Henry LEE of this thread?