PAYNE Families

[signalman]

HI Tony ,Frenchie,and Tisy. Signalman here Ive been in touch with a lady named Anne Williamson on Genes Reunited who is related to the Paynes , she sent me a photo of two people (man ,woman )ages ago and ive lost the explanation as to who the are . The photo was taken by Frank Reeve with an address in Bolton who is obviously a professional photographer , now if I can work out how to post it on this site I will let you see ,perhaps it might jog ones memory or you may have a similer photo

[Tisy]

Hi all Paynes,

Thanks for the photos Signalman!  The male looks so much like my late brother it was quite uncanny.  My Paynes who were 1820 settlers to S. Africa apparently came from Wiltshire.  They came on the ship the "Weymouth" in Ford's party. They were -

Elijah Payne (not Elisha as I said previously) b. 1794
Mary b. ?? his wife
Mary Payne b. 1818 their daughter (born in England)

There were probably more children born in S. Africa between this lot and my gg Grannie Annie who married Abraham Wild.  I will try to find them.

There was another Payne family - they were probably brothers - who came on the same ship in Liversage's party -

Thomas Payne b. 1787
Sarah, his wife, b. ?
James Payne - son b. 1813 (born in England)
John Payne - son, b. 1817 (born in England)
Thomas Payne - son b. 1809 in England
William Payne - son b. 1811 in England

The Weymouth's emigres were well documented after their arrival in South Africa, and if anyone wants more info, let me know.

Tisy

[Tony Payne]

Hi Tisy,

I think there are more Paynes in the Bolton area, most likely not related to mine, but the names  James, John and Thomas are all family names for me, however they are als common names as well, so that doesn't mean anything.

I I can check back I would like to get more information on some of my late 1700's Paynes.  You just never know.  Emmigration to the New Worlds was a big thing back then, new opportunities for those who either had little or those who wanted to make their fortune elsewhere.

Good Luck in your hunting and I will work on mine - might have to wait a few months, but I aim to work on it.

[cad]

Hi Tisy,
I've come across your Elijah Payne before whilst researching my own Elijah Payne born 1811, son of Simeon, this family were from Knook and Longbridge Deverill in Wiltshire. A lot of them seem to be Weavers.
 I've assumed there must be a connection somewhere down the line.
Apparently the use of the more archaic biblical names in this family indicates they were non-conformist, there's even a Zebedee!
Your family story sounds fascinating, good luck with your research.
cad

[fritztracer]

Hello Tisy

I am new to this forum and have just registered today....only because I am hopeful that I might find a link to add to my tree.

I would be very interested in finding out more about your Payne family link - I am a Payne from South Africa and my g-grandfather Ernest William Payne was born in Wynberg, Cape in Oct 1886 (one of I believe 4 children that I have been able to trace).......his parents being Alfred Ernest Payne and Mary Johanna (have no further info on them).

This line of my family tree continues to frustrate me - I have been researching for the last 15 years and am not getting very far - but from reading your messages I am feeling hopeful that I might be near to a breakthrough. Do you think that you might be able to help or can you suggest a lead I can follow!

Looking forward to your reply - or any other reponses.

Hi all Paynes,

Saw your correspondence and just thought I'd add this -

My gg grandfather, Abraham Wild (1819) was an 1820 Settler to South Africa. He married Ann (Annie) Payne, daughter of Elisha Payne who was also an 1820 Settler. Have a look at the settler parties on the 1820Settler.com website - it just struck me when I say that some of the Paynes had biblical names!

Happy hunting!

Tisy

[Tony Payne]

Hi Cad,

My Paynes from Hinckley in Leicestershire around the same time were in the Hosiery business.   Might be a link.

I need to look up my Paynes in the early 1800's because I have James, John and William, maybe they headed off to South Africa, who knows.   I know my grandmother (a Hurst who married a Payne) visited South Africa in the 1950's, but I think this was just on a cruise, I know nothing of any family down there.   Anyone who might have known is of course long gone now

Hi Tisy,
I've come across your Elijah Payne before whilst researching my own Elijah Payne born 1811, son of Simeon, this family were from Knook and Longbridge Deverill in Wiltshire. A lot of them seem to be Weavers.
 I've assumed there must be a connection somewhere down the line.
Apparently the use of the more archaic biblical names in this family indicates they were non-conformist, there's even a Zebedee!
Your family story sounds fascinating, good luck with your research.
cad