Greystoke Parish Registers pre 1750

[jimgillbanks]

Hi, I would like to know if there are any microfiche or CDs that I can buy  containing the records of the Greystoke Parish specifically from 1680 up until about 1750?.

[ainstable533]

Hi,
I have an interest in Gill, Ainstable and Greystoke as I am researching the NICHOLSON family.

[jimgillbanks]

Hi ainstable, my search is for the children of Thomas Gillbanks and Grace Virtue who married at Greystoke in 1685,  I have been unable to find any deaths for them, or marriages for their children, Frances Christened 23 Dec. 1686, John Christened 20 March 1688, and especially Isaac Christened 6 September 1691. I believe Isaac may be my missing link. It is funny that my furthest ancestor that I can trace by paper is Isaac Gillbanks who also used the name Banks, supposedly born Town End, Broughton in Furness, but can find no record of his birth or marriage there, a clue to his link with Greystoke may be that his children were Thomas, John, Grace and Isaac. Another theory is that Isaac really was a Banks, who married Margaret Gill, and that they joined the names making Gillbanks. Jim. 

[Deborah Boss]

Jim
I don't know if the following would be of any assistance.  The index to the Diocese of Carlisle marriage licences has the following entry:

25 Nov 1740
Gilbank (sig Gill Bank) John, Manisty p Crosthwaite yeoman
Wren Margaret, Hollis p Crosthwaite
bondsman: Youdell Gawin, Hollis, yeom
marriage to take place at Crosthwaite

That's probably o/s your timeframe but the split signature caught my eye.  There are marriage licences for Gilbanks from the same place in 1738 and 1749.

There is a marriage licence of a William Gillbanks of Red Sykes in Matterdale, p Graystock in 1747.  Plus some later ones.

I can't find an Isaac Gill or Gilbanks.

Let me know if you would like further details.
regards
Deborah

[jimgillbanks]

Hi Deborah, thanks for replying, the split in the name ie Gill Bank is certainly in keeping with my records from my branch of the family, which is very interesting, which does suggest there may be a connection, the lack of any mention of Thomas, Grace, or there children in any registers leave me to conclude they left the county, or indeed the country, if not they should be there somewhere. You mention you have Marriage  Licences for other Gillbanks', any information will be gratefully received. BTW, Jonathon Vertue (Grace's brother) was also known as Bank, he married Jane Bank.
Best Wishes, Jim.

[jimgillbanks]

Hi Deborah, Sorry, I am afraid I gave you wrong information, It was not Jonathon but Thomas who married Jane Bank, Jonathon was their son, who was known by both names.
Regards, Jim.

[Deborah Boss]

Jim
The marriage licences really start in earnest in 1699 - too late for the Gillbank/Vertue marriage.

The first mention of Gilbank (and variants) is unfortunately an incomplete bond:

blank date but reference to George Secundi ... tertio so between 11 Jun 1728 and 10 June 1729
Pattinson John, p Uldale
blank for bride
bondsman: Gilbank John, Uldale
blank for marriage location

and the second mention is similar to the one I have already provided:

2 Apr 1738
Gillbank John, Manesty, p Crosthwaite
Fisher Jane, Manesty
bondsman: Udall (sig Youdell) Gawin, High Hill p Crosthwaite
marriage to take place at Crosthwaite

(Looks like this might be for the same man as the Nov 1740 licence.  I wonder if this first marriage happened.)

I'll provide some more refs tomorrow.
regards
Deborah

[Deborah Boss]

And some more Gilbanks and variants marriage licences:

the one of John Gill Bank (already provided)

16 Feb 1747
Gillbanks William, Red Sykes in Matterdale p Graystock, singleman
Sowerby Mary, Murray p Graystock, spinster
bondsman: Scott Joseph, Threlkeld do
marriage to take place at Graystock or Barton

29 Sep 1749
Gill Bank John, Longthwaite p Crosthwaite, yeo
Harris Esther, Grange p Crosthwaite, wid
bondsmand: Youdell Johm Stonethwaite ditto, yeo
marriage to take place at Crosthwaite

23 Aug 1751
Chappllow John,  Yanwath p Barton, singleman, above 30, taylor
Gillbanks Isabella, Scales p Skelton, abv 26, singlewoman
bondsman: Chaplow Richard, Eamontbridge, miller
marriage to take place at Skelton

6 Nov 1752
Fallowfield Joseph, Hacthorp p Lowther, bch, yeoman
Gilbanks Agnes, Lowther, d Thomas, spinster
bondsman: Gillbanks Thomas, Lowther, yeoman
She is called Agnes Banks on the bond, Gilbanks of
n affidavit
marriage to take place at Lowther or Askham

18 Nov 1752
Birkitt John, Rosthwaite p Crosthwaite, yeoman
Bell Ann, Longthwaite p Crosthwaite, spinster
bondsman: Gillbank Joh, Longthwaite, yeo
marriage to take place at St Johns

There are several marriage licences before 1740 for Gill as well.  Mostly they seem to be in Carlisle.  One exception is:

18 Jan 1717/8
Fenton Thomas, Skelton wood foot, yeoan
Gill Frances, p Skelton, spinster
bondsmen: Scot William, marks, p Skelton, yeoman &
Story George, marks, p Rickarby, yeoman

regards
Deborah

[jimgillbanks]

Hi Deborah, thanks for taking the time to post, yes John could be the same man, alternatively, if that Gillbanks family were like my branch, the same names repeat within each family, which could mean more than one family living in the area, do you know whether Manesty was a hamlet or a farm? Have just been on www.familysearch.org and John and Jane did marry on 6 April 1738, but could find no trace of Jane's death, so I must presume the two Johns were seperate people. Both of these John's could be in the frame(timewise) for John born 1688, it's a pity registers at that time didn't include ages, or father's name.  Have just received your other post, and am overjoyed to note theat Anges used the name Banks on the document, this is so heartening, I think I am on the right track knowing that this Gillbanks also used the Banks name. Looking at the other document for 1749 where John splits the name is a further clue. The 1717/18 Licence for Thos. Fenton and Frances Gill is interesting, she could be Frances born 1686, but have no proof that the family ever used the name Gill, although until a few years ago never knew they used Banks either. I can't thank you enough for your interest, and posts, I shall have to see if I can join any dots up, BTW, I have a website at www.jimgillbanks.co.uk if you want to see why I believe my brick wall lies in Cumberland, once again, Best Wishes, Jim.