St Leonards Shoreditch Accessing Parish Records

[SoulSeekingPassion]

I'm hoping someone here can help me with these particular records.

I'm looking for somwhere I maybe able to purchase these records on Data CD. I know that there are two societies that have them on CD but they are in England (I'm in Australia) and no one knows where I could purchase from. I do know from message boards there are other Aussies wanting to gain access to these records.

One of the societies does lookups but I have extensive family connections in this parish and there are many variants to the name I'm wanting to search so paying someone to research for me or having someone else do the work just doesn't work for me. I kinda want to leave no stone unturned and know in my own mind that is so.

I've e-mailed so many places I felt sure to be able to help like the church only to either have the e-mails bounce or be sent in another direction, while there are Data CDs in existence no one knows where to obtain them.

I'd be ever so greatful to anyone who could shed some light.

[Valda]

The registers themselves are deposited at the Guildhall London and can be viewed there are on microfilm as can they at the London Metropolitan Archives.
The Guildhall library would know whether a CD had been made made copying the registers, since their permission would need to have been sought.

http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/Corporation/leisure_heritage/libraries_archives_museums_galleries/city_london_libraries/guildhall_lib.htm

You could order microfilm copies of St. Leonard parish registers to view from your nearest Family History Centre in Australia.

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp

The period 1745-1875 is covered on the IGI for marriages and baptisms and there is a transcript for an earlier period 1558-1640 at

http://socrates.berkeley.edu/~ahnelson/PARISH/Leonard.html

but I don't know of any other transcripts/indexes for St. Leonard's registers, marriages though for certain periods will be covered on various indexes like Pallots.

East London Family History Society is the family history society that covers East London and they would certianly know if anything further had been produced for St. Leonards parish registers.

http://www.eolfhs.org.uk/eolintro.htm

and would know where to purchase it from.

Depending on the period you are interested in, by the C19th St Leonards Shoreditch was such a populous parish that daughter churches had begun to appear the earliest being

St John the Baptist in 1826 and St Mary Haggerstone in 1827.

http://homepages.gold.ac.uk/genuki/MDX/Shoreditch/churches.htm

Are the CDs you are interested in actually the parish records themselves of St. Leonards Shoreditch and not perhaps a bit of confusing hype and CDs containing other information to do with the parish of St. Leonards or for instance the CDs have some coverage since they contain for instance marriages from previously published marriage indexes?

Regards

Valda

[SoulSeekingPassion]

Thanks so much Valda, that was just the info I needed. I have notbeen able to get that info from anyone else and believe me I have spent hours and hours sending e-mails and searching the web for just a glimps of what you have given me.

It is the St Leonards of Shoreditch I am after, I've seen reference to my 3x Great Grandfather being born or baptised in St Leonards Shoreditch and have found many other Glazbrooks (in all variants) being born in Shoreditch in the BMD Index.

I really said CD because it is an easy accessable form of info and I thought I had exhausted all avenues online.

The FHCs, being in Australia would I be able to get a hold of these records through them??? I know we have one very close by but haven't made it there to check it out yet.

Thanks again for all the help with this.
 

[Valda]

Your reference numbers for ordering the films from a Family History Centre.

http://tinyurl.com/y4z3br

They will have to come from Utah so that will take sometime but you will be able to see them in Australia.

When you refer to Shoreditch BMD (births, marriages and deaths as in civil registration after July 1837?) be aware that Shoredtich registration district (in the early days of registration refered to as St. Leonards Shoreditch) covered an area with many churches not just St. Leonards.

Shoreditch registration district
Sub-districts : Haggerston; Haggerston East; Haggerston West; Holywell; Hoxton New Town; Hoxton Old Town; St. Leonards; Shoreditch; Shoreditch North East; Shoreditch North West; Shoreditch South; Shoreditch South West.

Many of these churches will not have their records on the IGI. St. Leonards registers are indexed on the IGI 1745-1878 so any Glazbrook baptisms or marriages in that period you will already know about from Family Search

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp

though not the full detail of the entry.

Regards

Valda

[SoulSeekingPassion]

Thank you once again Valda and thanks for the heads up on the sub districts etc. I'm still learning the geographical sides of genealogy when it comes to England, I had no idea I was going to learn so much geography.

Yes I did mean after 1837 BMD however my GGG Grandfather I know was born 1813 and christened 1814 with exact dates but I've also found a few variants of Glazbrook earlier than 1837 on other online sources but I want to go through carefully myself and see where connections are and are not. This is one part of my family that has eluded me and as such has made me even more determined to find out all I can about them. My Grandmother passed last year and she was the last one to carry the name in her line which is another reason I am so Keen to do this in depth and with great care before it is lost.

Your points and help have been invaluable Thank You.

[Valda]

So presumably

WILLIAM GLAZBROOK 
Birth:  22 DEC 1813   
Christening:  24 JAN 1814   Saint Leonards, Shoreditch, London,
Father:  WILLIAM GLAZBROOK 
Mother:  MARY 

JOHN GLAZBROOK 
Birth:  16 JAN 1816   
Christening:  23 MAR 1817   Saint Leonards, Shoreditch, London,
Father:  WILLIAM GLAZBROOK 
Mother:  MARY 

JAMES GLAZBROOK 
Birth:  08 MAY 1818   
Christening:  12 DEC 1830   Saint Leonards, Shoreditch, London,
Father:  WILLIAM GLAZBROOK 
Mother:  MARY 

CAROLINE GLAZBROOK 
Birth:  03 SEP 1822   
Christening:  12 DEC 1830   Saint Leonards, Shoreditch, London,
Father:  WILLIAM GLAZBROOK 
Mother:  MARY 

A possible
1841 census HO107 712/10 folio 46 page 14
St Vincent Street Stepney  Middlesex
William Glasbrook 25 born Middlesex Seaman
Caroline Glasbrook 15  born Middlesex

Adult ages rounded down to the nearest 5 on the 1841 census.

Regards

Valda

[SoulSeekingPassion]

Oh WOW, I had William, James and Caroline but I didn't have John. I tried searching the exact spelling of Glazbrook but because I was doing an exact spelling the system told me I had to give a first name so I just searched the ones I knew...... However.......

I have systematically gone through the BDM Index knowing where they all lived roughly and purchased a whole lot of certificates that I knew or had a VERY strong belief were connected to William (1813). I have had one death certificate for a John Glazbrook who died of Scarlet Fever in 1838 which shows James Glazbrook (brother of deceased, residing same house) as the informant, I was quite certain that this James the brother was my GGG Grandfather's brother but without some form of concrete evidence that John was born to the same parents I didn't want to make assumptions. Thank you for confirming that the John I have on this certificate is infact another brother. The address on the certificate is 47 St Vincent Street and the age at death matches the birth and baptism you have shown.

I had looked at that 1841 listing in the census before and it is a common variant, James married in 1839 and John had passed I'm assuming their parents had either passed or were not at that residence the day the census was done.

I was told this board would be a great deal of help for me and I'd be amazed by what I find but when I posed the question on St Leonards I had no idea of the kind of help others would be willing to give or that I would be able to fit more pieces to the puzzle so quick.

I've also leart so much more about how to use the LDS site. I use Legacy and know how valuable what they do is but I had no idea to the extent their information can be used.

Thanks Heaps  

[Josephine]

Valda,

I've just come across this thread and would like to add my thanks for the information and the links. 

Regards,
Josephine