Frederick Charles Bearman

[KarenM]

I thought Dog River was where it all took place in Canada 

Karen

[J.J.]

Oh, Dear me Siouxzie (cute title)...seems we've kidnapped your thread so that I can be teased about my place of birth      The Dog River thing is a comedy show filmed in a small town in Saskatchewan...We were looking at moving to Rouleau, years ago, as they have a really strong arts community..  Hubbies dad's cousin lived there and he loved it!...but the winter driving, yanking son to a new school...Decided against it... J.J. 

[Siouxzie]

Thanks all for your help, suggestions and little bit of flavour of the area

Jeff,
Early on in my Miles research I did note the Kingsclere Miles family, but as yet havn't found any connection to mine.  Mine are Buckinghamshire Paper makers before turning up in Windsor Berkshire.

Oh to have the 1911 uk census online.  I'd know if  he was still in England then.  When I've some spare cash I shall definitely send for his military records. 

As you point out Canada is such a vast country and he could have settled anywhere after the war.  I guess tracking him down is not going to be easy.

Thanks again
Siouxzie (it was how I usd to sign my name as a pretentious 11 year old JJ the S was always a snake )

[J.J.]

Well our 1911 isn't transcribed completely, so??! I did check both of the 1906 transcribed records and he wasn't on there.... Here is the 1911 and you can check every so often to see if he shows...
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/Test4.jsp
Put in the surname under saskatchewan, but I would also hit "all" on the next page to see results in all of Canada, as he could be anywhere...or on the way there, you never know....  all the best,  J.J.

[BillyB2431]

Hi Siouxzie,

My name is William Frederick (Bill) Bearman.  I currently live in Regina, Saskatchewan.   My father is Frederick Ross Bearman (also of Regina) and his father was Frederick Charles Bearman, originally of London.   My Dad also has a sister Shirley Bearman (now Blackburn) who resides in Saskatoon, Sask.

Grandpa did fight in Europe in World War 1 and upon his return to Canada married Margaret Nicol (originally from Glasgow, Scotland) and worked for the railroad in Swift Current, Saskatchewan.  Grandpa passed away around 1970.

I'd love to share more details but want to get my facts and dates straight so I'll need my Dad's help with that.   Post me back and we can go from there.

I'm totally new to this so appreciate your patience.   Look forward to hearing from you.

Bill

[Siouxzie]

Oh wow Bill, Hello

I have to say your post has got me excited, because it seems really likely you and I could be related.  Your father's middle name "Ross" is the reason for my excitement and the fact you are a William.  William, Frederick and Ross all being family names in my Bearman line.  The Ross comes from Martha Matilda Ross who was the wife of Frederick William Bearman and mother of Frederick Charles.  They had 10 children my great grandfather William John being one of them, one of the younger brother's Bertie also has Ross as a middle name. My great grandad William John was the eldest son, Frederick Charles was the 6th child another of the brothers Edwin/Edmond/Edmund  (some confusion over his name - but he was known as Ted) Stanley also ended up living in Canada and today I am in touch with his 18 year old descendant Brandon in Cold Lake Alberta, through my facebook genealogy forum (Bearman genealogy forum).

I have a picture of Frederick Charles sent to me by the grandaughter of his first wife Eva Wilson he married her in 1921, she remarrried in 1929 but had kept his photograph the mount is inscribed Saskatchewan Canada.  Debbie who sent me the photo is Evas grand daughter from her second marriage.

The railroad connection is interesting too, because FC's dad FW and his brother WJ both worked on the railway too, my great grandad was a railway porter and his father has the occupation Engine Cleaner on the 1901 census.


Do you think we have the same Frederick Charles ?  Have you photographs ?  I would love him to be the one and the same, I have quite a lot of information on this family

Suzanne 

[BillyB2431]

Hi Suzanne,

Wow is right.  That is without a doubt my Grandfather so it looks very likely that we are related.

I spoke with my Mom and Dad this evening over the phone and they're quite excited about this (Dad had never seen this photo before so that was strange for him).  They're going to get the family history organized along with some photos and we're anxious to share all this with you.  Dad knew that there were 9 in the family but it's likely there could have been one more we weren't aware of.   Ted Bearman lived not far from here in Assiniboia, Sk.  Ted was married to Mabel and his son, Ron (Dad's cousin), still lives in Moose Jaw which is only 45 minutes from Regina.   Ron had 2 other brothers, Doug & Bert.

We didn't know anything about Eva Wilson so this was a real surprise.  Grandpa married Margaret Nicol on June 25, 1925 in Medicine Hat, Alberta.  I remember Grandpa well but I was only 9 or so when he died.  Dad's always said that Grandpa never talked much about his family in England and would just say that he'd lost track of them after the war.  We're certainly very interested in finding out more about this.

I've attached the one photo of Grandpa I have stored on my computer.   This was taken at Mom & Dad's wedding in 1960.  You'll be able to pick Frederick Charles out second from the left.  At the left is Jim Aberdeen, Dad's best man who was referenced in a Sask Archives photo earlier in this thread along with Dad (they were doing a sing-along on a train car). To the right of Grandpa is his daughter (my Aunt) Shirley, and to her right my Dad, Frederick Ross.  The fellow on the far right is another family friend.

I'll compile more information Suzanne along with photos and we'll talk to you soon.

Bill

[Siouxzie]

Hi Bill,
couldn't wait to  get up this morning to see if you replied, normally you can't shift me from my bed!  Brandon Ted's great grandson being a typical teenage lad, (I've got 3 myself) said yes I am related to you, I'll get you more information and then school, cars & sport took over and he hasn't or we might have known about the connection sooner. Brandon is the grandson of Doug.

I love that photo of Frederick Charles as I have no pictures of my great grandfather Willliam John and how it came to me was such a fluke, as the girl who had it not even being a blood relation to him.  She, Debbie didn't know much about FC only that he married Eva Wilson her nan on August 20th 1921 at All Saints Church, Shooters Hill London, he was 30 and she was 23. His profession was labourer. He lived at 27 Eglinton Road, she lived at number 23. His father's profession was a fitter as was her father. As well as two male witnesses, a third name is squashed down the side of the certificate apparently and it is Dorothy Bearman.  FC had a sister called Alice Dorothy.

I have information on this family going back to c 178ish and could spend all day collating it for you - unfortunately I have a massive deadline at work and must resist the temptation today.  I will say Bill you are from long line of William's.
William Bearman c 17?? father of William Bearman c 1812 in Bocking Essex, (who married Jane Pine) father of Frederick William 4/4/1859 who married (Martha Ross) who was father to your Frederick and my William.  The eldest son of William c 1812 and Jane was called William and his decendants live in Peterborough UK, I am in touch with them and one of them (Derek Duddington) believes that he has found the parents of my first William, he says:

"William Bearman was born in Bocking on 7th Jan 1808 and baptised @ St. Mary's church on 1st April. He was the Son of William Bearman and Rhoda Burman, who where married on 8th Jan 1804 @ St. Mary's. Other children are Mary brn 29 Mar bap 17 Apr 1805 : Eliza brn 8 May bpt 24 Jun 1809 : Elizabeth brn 25 Oct 1815, PR states fathers occupation in 1815 was a Wheelwright."

Suzanne

[Siouxzie]

Hey JJ
Did you see that after nearly 5 years of this post being here, we have a result and that your photo archive find of a Bearman singing in a train car, is actually the son of Frederick Charles!

Dont you just love Rootschat!

Suzanne