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Offline AllieCarr-Russo

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Searching for Ellen Pike
« on: Monday 16 October 06 02:58 BST (UK) »
Hello i am looking for a lady who was married to a Robert Hayward back the dec quarter of 1874.  here is ellen pike background so far that i have.

in1871 her family was in andover, hampshire. her father was named Benjamin Pike 60 yrs old at the time and his job then was a carpenter and a primitive methodist preacher.  her mother was maryann , 56, brother joshua, 23,  he ws a carpenter as well ellen, 14, dressmaker apprentice, elfrida, 12, and staying with the family was a Bethsheba Pike,66. i would like to fid out more on the family and if the line goes to any duke or lady cause i was just told that ellen pike was Lady Ellen Pike when she married robert . i would appreciate any info on this side of my husbands family thank you.
I am researching the following names
husband's father side: Russo, Grasso,  Gere, Quackenbush, Hayward, Jackman, Davis, Jessop & Deaves, Pike Moore, newman, Harcourt, Beaumont, Hamilton,

husband mother side: Native American:Wengard, Renolds
Jones, Rinehart, Hammann, Kurthe

My mother's side: Grappone, Miano, Famiglietti,

My dad's side Donegal, Ireland: Carr, Campbell, McShane, Hawkin(Harkin), McCarthy, Gillespie, Cunningham, McHugh, McClafferty, Doherty, Cassidy, Bryne, O'Byrne, O'Donnell,

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Re: Searching for Ellen Pike
« Reply #1 on: Monday 16 October 06 04:13 BST (UK) »
Hi STAR...

This is the 1861:

1861: Andover Hampshire
REF: RG9 - 715 / F137 / Pg: 52
ADDRESS: (None Specific)
Head:  Benjamin PIKE 52, Carpenter, b Leckford Hants
Wife: Mary A PIKE 46, b Newtown Dorset
Son: Rueben PIKE 17, Currier's Ap. b Leckford Hants
Son: Joshua PIKE 13, Scholar, b Lecford Hants
Son: Peter PIKE 11, Scholar, b Andover Hants
Dau: Mary A PIKE 10,Scholar, b Andover Hants
Dau: Lonanna PIKE 8, Scholar, b Andover Hants
Dau: Ellen PIKE 5, Scholar, b Andover Hants
Dau: Elfrida PIKE 2, b Andover Hants

Looks like Benjamin PIKE was married twice and Mary Ann was his 2nd wife
IGI:
Benjamin PIKE b 1809 Lockford Hampshire
Married: 23 Aug 1831 Lockford Hampshire to:
Lonona MERSH b 1807, died 1 April 1846

and: the same Lonona MERSH of Lockford Hampshire
Parents: Jacob MERSH and Elizabeth BLAKE

Also in 1861:

1861: Islington West, St John,  Middlesex
REF: RG9 - 136 / F103 / Pg 4
ADDRESS: 11 Walters Buildings
Servant: Bathsheba PIKE 56, female, unm, House Servant, b Leckford Hampshire
in the household, with one other servant, of  Charles WILLIAMS 68, Soap Manufacturer and wife/family.

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AMBLY

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Re: Searching for Ellen Pike
« Reply #2 on: Monday 16 October 06 04:16 BST (UK) »
ambly thank you for the info do you think we can go further back?
I am researching the following names
husband's father side: Russo, Grasso,  Gere, Quackenbush, Hayward, Jackman, Davis, Jessop & Deaves, Pike Moore, newman, Harcourt, Beaumont, Hamilton,

husband mother side: Native American:Wengard, Renolds
Jones, Rinehart, Hammann, Kurthe

My mother's side: Grappone, Miano, Famiglietti,

My dad's side Donegal, Ireland: Carr, Campbell, McShane, Hawkin(Harkin), McCarthy, Gillespie, Cunningham, McHugh, McClafferty, Doherty, Cassidy, Bryne, O'Byrne, O'Donnell,

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Re: Searching for Ellen Pike
« Reply #3 on: Monday 16 October 06 04:31 BST (UK) »
Hi STAR...

1851: Andover Hampshire
REF: HO107 -  1683 / F472 / Pg: 14
ADDRESS: Charlton
Head: Benjamin PIKE 42, Carpenter & Shope Keeper, b Leckford Hants
Wife: Mary Ann PIKE 36, b Newtown Dorset
Son: Josiah PIKE 11, Scholar, b Leckford Hants
Son: Rueben PIKE 9, Scholar, b Leckford Hants
Son: Joshua PIKE 3, Scholar, b Leckford Hants
Son: Peter PIKE 1, b Charlton Hants
Dau: Mary Ann PIKE 1 mth, b Charlton Hants
Lodger: Elizabeth ALLEN 61, Nurse, b Charlton Hants

(No Marital status listed for Elizabeth ALLEN)

Am now looking for Bathheba 1851, and all of them in 1841......

Cheers
AMBLY
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Re: Searching for Ellen Pike
« Reply #4 on: Monday 16 October 06 05:02 BST (UK) »
1841: Leckford Hampshire
Hundred:Thorngate (Upper Half)
RD: Stockbridge, REF: :HO107/384/15 / F5 / Pg5
ADDRESS: Leckford
Benjamin PIKE 30, I - Y
Louanna PIKE 30 - Y
Walter PIKE 8 - Y
Jacob PIKE 5 - Y
Janan?  PIKE 3 (male) - Y
Josiah PIKE 9 mths - Y
Laura  or Louisa  TURNER 15, F S - Y

Ages rounded down in 1841.
I think Benjamin's occupation (which was altered and the initial 4 or 5 letter word erased) is I = Ind = Independant, or it could be a "T" not an "I" in which case I have no idea what "T:" would mean.

Hampshire DEATH: Mar Qtr 1846, Stockbridge
Louanna PIKE

Hampshire  MARRIAGE: Sep Qtr 1846, New Forest
Benjamin PIKE and one of the brides was: Mary Ann WURDER or WARDER

The second Marriage (which maybe that one in New Forest) would give you Benjamin's father's name - since that marriage occurred after the beginning of English Civil Registration (whereas the one to Louanna would be an OPR and very possibly not have any information regarding parentage).

Can't find Bathsheba in 1841 or 1851 ........still looking

Cheers
AMBLY
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Re: Searching for Ellen Pike
« Reply #5 on: Monday 16 October 06 06:33 BST (UK) »
Found Bathesheba in 1851 - in Islington, and with the same family she was with in 1861 - her age has clearly been incorrectly enumerated as 27 - she would be abt 46 then:

1851: Islington West St John, Middlesex
REF: HO107 - 1500 / F593 / Pg22
ADDRESS: 11 Walters BUILDINGS
Servant: Bathsheba PIKE 27, House Servant, b Hants
In House of Charles Williams 58, Soap Manufactuer & his wife/family

And here:
1881: Islington West London
REF: RG11 - 244 / F92 / Pg41
ADDRESS: 2 Grove Street
Boarder: Bathsheba PIKE, 75, unm, female, Formerly Gen'l Servant, b Lecford Hants

The other people at Nr 2, listed after her are: Head: Francis MAWLAN, wife & Family.
Before her at Nr 1: are: Head: William WRIGHT , wife/dau, And Head: Frederick CHARLES/wife

Bathesba may actually be at Nr 1 or Nr 2, - could be the enumerator has erred & written the Nr 2 address on Bathesba's line, instead of on MAWLAN's line

London DEATH: Mar Qtr 1882, Bathsheba PIKE age 77

Cheers
AMBLY
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Re: Searching for Ellen Pike
« Reply #6 on: Monday 16 October 06 08:08 BST (UK) »
This may be Bathsheba in 1841 - bady enumerated as "Ann  born in Middlesex". Ages were rounded down in 1841.

1841: Islington West St Mary, Middlesex
REF: HO107/665/14 / F10 / Pg 14
ADDRESS: Walters Buildings
Ann PIKE 30, FS - Y
She is servant in the household of the same Charles PIKE for whom a Bathsheba was working for in 1851 & 1861.

http://www.railwayancestors.fsnet.co.uk/ra-p.html
Someone registered oin this site is interested in PIKEs from Leckford Hampshire.

Cheers
AMBLY
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Re: Searching for Ellen Pike
« Reply #7 on: Monday 16 October 06 08:32 BST (UK) »
Louana's bap is in the IGI

Louana MERSH, 31 May 1807 at Broughton Hants, dau of Jacob and Elizabeth.

Also a submitted entry for the marriage
23 Aug 1831 at "Lockford" (her name "Lonona")
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Re: Searching for Ellen Pike
« Reply #8 on: Monday 16 October 06 12:49 BST (UK) »
everyone, thank you so much for the info so far. now here is my new question was this line of pike come from noblity or royality cause i do know that there was a thomas pike who was a duke of something but i don't know if there is a connection in anyway?
I am researching the following names
husband's father side: Russo, Grasso,  Gere, Quackenbush, Hayward, Jackman, Davis, Jessop & Deaves, Pike Moore, newman, Harcourt, Beaumont, Hamilton,

husband mother side: Native American:Wengard, Renolds
Jones, Rinehart, Hammann, Kurthe

My mother's side: Grappone, Miano, Famiglietti,

My dad's side Donegal, Ireland: Carr, Campbell, McShane, Hawkin(Harkin), McCarthy, Gillespie, Cunningham, McHugh, McClafferty, Doherty, Cassidy, Bryne, O'Byrne, O'Donnell,