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Re: Leeds Parish Records - early Xmas present
« Reply #81 on: Tuesday 03 August 10 21:24 BST (UK) »
Hello Dave
             Its a very big thank you for all  the above information.will contact  Hudderfield  libarary .had sarah last name without the letter E.
 Will correct that.
 a very pleased client signing off
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Re: Leeds Parish Records - early Xmas present
« Reply #82 on: Tuesday 03 August 10 22:06 BST (UK) »
Hi Mike

I was hoping the marriage was by licence and the bond allegation would have given an age for thoth bride and groom also solved the riddle of which John Musgrave baptism above

I think John was a Tailor Not a Sailor in Leeds.
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« Reply #83 on: Tuesday 03 August 10 22:21 BST (UK) »
Hello Dave,
                you have done better than i could.was thinking the john musgrave born in 1810 father william may be mine.thought with a name like musgrave would be easier to research . but  find there are quite a few of them.was under the idea that john and sarah had died.but as seen sarah remarried and john was on agnes married cert stated as sailor. so was wrong myself.
just pleased with what you have given me.
and am sorry did not give correct details on first post .was correct to slap me on the wrists as they say. and no affence
 taken as i wasted your time .
 so thanks from me
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Re: Leeds Parish Records - early Xmas present
« Reply #84 on: Tuesday 03 August 10 22:34 BST (UK) »
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Leeds/Leeds22Dry.html

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Leeds/Leeds37Dry.html


Directories
Transcript of the entry of "professions and trades" in Baines's Directory and Gazetteer Directory of 1822.
Transcript of the entry of "professions and trades" in Pigot's Directory of 1829.
Transcript of the entry of "professions and trades" in Pigot's Directory of 1834.
Transcript of the entry of "professions and trades" in White's Directory of 1837.
A further transcript of the entry of "professions and trades" in White's Directory of 1837.


http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Leeds/index.html

plus more stuff
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Re: Leeds Parish Records - early Xmas present
« Reply #85 on: Tuesday 03 August 10 22:44 BST (UK) »
Hello Dave,
                you have done better than i could.was thinking the john musgrave born in 1810 father william may be mine.thought with a name like musgrave would be easier to research . but  find there are quite a few of them.was under the idea that john and sarah had died.but as seen sarah remarried and john was on agnes married cert stated as sailor. so was wrong myself.
just pleased with what you have given me.
and am sorry did not give correct details on first post .was correct to slap me on the wrists as they say. and no affence
 taken as i wasted your time .
 so thanks from me
                   mike

Hi Mike

As an after thought  -Sometimes a new fresh approach by fresh minds (Census)brings new angles, new thoughts and info. Thus its a gamble.
Now you have Both angles to cross ref.

I think you can rule out the David father of John bapt 1803 as he was a furnature  maker.

Dave
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Re: Leeds Parish Records - early Xmas present
« Reply #86 on: Tuesday 03 August 10 22:51 BST (UK) »
Hello Dave
             Thank you very much for the trade and profession
 lists will plough through them. with intrest.
 also for the fresh out look you have givem me.
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Re: Leeds Parish Records - early Xmas present
« Reply #87 on: Tuesday 03 August 10 23:02 BST (UK) »
one John Father trade Machine maker

http://books.google.com/books?id=gWQSRPB4zn8C&pg=PA94&dq=john+musgrave+leeds&hl=en&ei=9I9YTN72JOSH4gaK2N3JBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAjgK#v=onepage&q=john%20musgrave%20leeds&f=false

Philosophical magazine - Page 94
 1809
To John Hartley, John Musgrave, and William Farmery, of Leeds, machine makers, for a machine for preparing roving, slubbing, spinning, twisting, and doubling of cotton, flax, hemp, tow, worsted


other John father

out of Transcript of the entry of "professions and trades"
for LEEDS in Baines's Directory and Gazetteer Directory of 1822.


Musgrave John, agent. to collect rents, Musgrave's yard, Duke street
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« Reply #88 on: Tuesday 03 August 10 23:17 BST (UK) »
Enter 'William Musgrave Leeds'
amd 'William Musgrave Bank Leeds' in Google Books
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« Reply #89 on: Tuesday 03 August 10 23:46 BST (UK) »
Northern and General Bank of England

Share Holder William Musgrave Bank Leeds



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Liverpool Mercury etc (Liverpool, England), Friday, May 8, 1835; Issue 


Looks like Willaim was a very Rich Man

Considering Agnes was of Poor working class I think one of the
John of John Musgrave rent collector seems most likely and The other fathers were too Middle class traders to very rich.

John of John Musgrave 1812 Rent collector

Thats my 6 penny worth

Good Hunting

Dave
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