Census Lookup for BACKWAY/BARKWAY 1841-51

[liz-bris]

Hi

I need a census look-up for anyone named BACKWAY or variants (could have had cockney accent) in 1841 or 1851 census. Writing looks on certificate like BARKWAY

Elizabeth Backway married in Broughton BKM 1846 father no name listed - just dead!

Mother Jane (Ellis) father unknown carpenter.  She was born London- (Aussie death certificate)

Any help with anyone with that name in the vicinity would be appreciated.  Her husband to be was resident in Newport Pagnell

Thanks

Liz

[heywood]

Hi,
1841 has a Jane Backway at 2 Green Street Mile End Old Town
HO107 Pg 8
Jane Backway 48 yrs greengrocer
William  20 yrs french polisher
Mary 10 yrs
Elizabeth Miller 65 yrs a seamstress
all born in county

no sign of an Elizabeth- will have a further search
best wishes
heywood

[heywood]

still no news
1841: HO107/702/10 Poplar Middlesex
John Backway 25 yrs licensed victualler; Mary Backway 20 yrs and Mary 6 months
1851 HO107; Piece: 1556; Folio: 707 Page: 12
this family still in Poplar

1851 HO107; Piece: 1548; Folio: 77; Page: 26
9 Sutton Street Tower Hamlets
Jane Backway widow 75 yrs  proprietor of horses (I think) b Hemel Hempstead
Mary Ann g daughter 20 yrs b Stepney
James Joseph grandson 5 yrs b ?? Poplar
Jane grandaughter 3 yrs b ?? Poplar  (can't read what goes before Poplar)

[heywood]

Family search has a marriage:
16 September 1815 Christ Church Greyfriars Newgate

James Backway to Jane Ellis

[heywood]

1841: HO107/698/13

St John Hackney London Orphan Asylum

Eliza Backway 12 yrs born abt 1829

This is from the index - I have searched the pages several times and cannot find her on them - I don't know what to think - is it my eyesight??

[liz-bris]

Hi Heywood

Thanks for all of the searching!  I knew about the Jane Ellis marriage but could not be sure it matched as I did not know Elizabeth's father's name.

The orphan asylum is a bit of a shock!  But unsure if that is her as the age does not match as her age from all of the other sources has her born around 1821. Funny that she is on the index but not the pages isn't it?   Unless it was a typo and they had her age round the wrong way eg 12 instead of 21

I expected that she might not be with her mother as she is old enough to be employed at 21, and is a servant at time of marriage in Broughton 1846.  I think the Jane Backway the greengrocer could be her mother.  Where is Mile End Old Town?  Is that in BKM or London?

Thanks  Liz

[heywood]

It is London- I am not a Londoner so not sure but it is East End I think- if you 'google' it you can get lots of information - very poor area I think.
I am glad you replied and made me look again- I was just checking areas to get your info and noticed that in the indexes there is an Eliza born 1829 in the 1851 so that would not be yours.
I thought too that perhaps Jane would be her mother. I have tried to find any misrepresentations of Backway for 1841 for Elizabeth but no joy. Had they left England by 1851? (I was thinking that if she was in 1851 census she may give her birthplace which might help.
good luck
heywood
PS there is also a marriage- 1812, a James to a Jane Kempster. If you are sure that Elizabeth's mother is Jane Ellis, then at least you can be fairly sure of her father's name through that marriage.

[liz-bris]

Hi Heywood

Thanks for all that info and for all the checking.

In 1851 Elizabeth and her husband James Faulkner were living in London, though I did have someone in London RC check the address on my great grandmother's birth certificate dated 23/8/1851 which was 29 Richard St Limehouse.  And they weren't there, so close in time.  And every one of the children born were in a different area of London so they must have been moving quite a bit.  They married 1/6/1846 in Broughton and first child James Henry Faulkner was born in Sept quarter in London.

Certificate of death in Qld gave lots of detail which is where I got the Jane Ellis, though for father it only had  Backway no name, on that.  Her youngest son gave the information, place birth London.

They emigrated to Tasmania in 1855, and her age then on ship record was 32, but that may have been age when they left as children's ages were out by one year each.

Thanks

Liz

[heywood]

Hi Liz,
this is why I asked you for those names- puzzling and wonder what you think?

1851 HO107; Piece: 1552; Folio: 609; Page: 25

32 Wellington Place Mile End Old Town
Henry Harris head 59 yrs carman  sawyer b Staffordshire
Jane Harris wife 58 yrs b St Georges East
Maria Harris daur 15 yrs b Stepney
Henry Harris  son 13 yrs      ditto
James Faulkner  son in law 25 yrs  Bucks
Elizabeth  daur 29 yrs  St Georges East
John grandson 4 yrs Stepney
Jane Laurence grandson (age is is female column) 8 yrs Stepney
James Faulkner grandson 4 yrs Stepney

These seem to be the best fit! Henry does not have a wife with him in 1841 so I am wondering if Jane Harris is Jane Backway?