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Re: Leleux search Lambeth
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 29 January 05 16:27 GMT (UK) »
Oooo my Gawd John  ::) this all sounds a bit posh doesn't it?  ;D

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Re: Leleux search Lambeth
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 01 September 05 10:50 BST (UK) »
Hello

I'm doing a bit of housekeeping and notice this rather old request.  Are you still looking for this information?  If so, could you be specific about what particular information you are now seeking ...

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Jonathan
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Re: Leleux search Lambeth
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 01 September 05 13:26 BST (UK) »
I am still looking for information on the parents - and any siblings - of Joseph Leonard Leleux. He married Eliza Bigg of Bethnal Green, (born St Albans) on 21st June 1832 in Hackney, and lived in Lambeth.
I am also looking for the parents - and any siblings - of Augustus Peter Joseph Leleux. Augustus was supposedly born in Paris about 1825, but lived in Westminster/Holborn and worked (as a machinist, engineer, electrician)  from 1850 until his death (in Woolwich) in 1893.
In particular, I am trying to establish if there was a family link between JLL and APJL.  After all, it was a fairly unusual name, and they lived not far from each other.
John

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Re: Leleux search Lambeth
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 01 September 05 13:39 BST (UK) »
These names are wrong for you but I'm going to post it anyway in case you find it of use.
1861 RG9/359 Lambeth Kennington First Folio 58 Page 29
3 Victoria Terrace, Lambeth
Alexander Leonard Leleux Head M 27 Wine Merchant Surrey Lambeth
Jane Mary Leleux Wife M 29 Middlx St Pancras
Frances Stedman Servant Unm 23 House Servant " Poplar

Apart from the family already given above, these are the only Leleux noted in the 1861 census ........ unless of course they are mistranscribed, which is probably easily done.

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Re: Leleux search Lambeth
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 01 September 05 14:45 BST (UK) »
John and Rosy

Do you have this marriage from Free BMD? Maybe you already know which of the lucky ladies he married  ;D


Marriages Sep 1855
 
Donohue  Margaret                      St James Westminster  1a 635   
Grandjean  Catherine Josephine     St.James  1a 635   
JOHNSON  George                          St James  1a 635   
Leleux  Pierre Joseph Auguste     St James  1a 635   

Did you ever find out why Eliza and Joseph married by " Allegations and Licences"?

All the best,

Carol
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Re: Leleux search Lambeth
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 03 September 05 15:38 BST (UK) »
Hello Carol, nice to hear your voice again - we had a nice conversation going a few months back.

Both of the marriages you mention were a leetle bizarre.

PJAL (or APJL) did marry Catherine Grandjean, daughter of Michael Grandjean "civil officer" - whatever that is - in 1855.  It took place in the Royal Bavarian Chapel in St. James, Westminster. That doesn't mean that either of them was Royal or Bavarian. I understand that Catholic marriages were still not often publicly celebrated in London at the time, and that this private chapel, attached to the Bavarian embassy, was a discreet locale (foreign soil even) used for that purpose; it was certainly used for public worship.  At the time, PJAL was a humble machinist, and eventually died in a poorhouse.

The strange thing is that there is no further trace of Catherine Grandjean that I've been able to find, and 20 months later PJAL had the first of 8 children by Julia Piguet, daughter of a protestant Swiss hotel porter. That first child was my great grandfather Charles Leon Leleux.

The 1832 wedding between Joseph Leonard Leleux of South Hackney and Eliza Bigg of Bethnal Green is also unusual, in as far as he had to apply to the Vicar General at Lambeth Palace for a licence to marry. I don't know what that was all about. Maybe his or her parents disapproved (but both were over 21) - or perhaps there was some dispute as to whether they were legally entitled to marry.  Any one else come across that?

Anyway, my Leleux antecedents continue to baffle me.

Best wishes from Labour Day weekend in sunny Toronto, and thanks for your past help,
John

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Re: Leleux search Lambeth
« Reply #15 on: Friday 21 April 06 08:00 BST (UK) »
Rosy

This request being an oldy, I imagine you have it by now?

just in case................

1841
ELTHAM HOUSE, FOXLEY ROAD, KENNINGTON 2ND, LAMBETH, SURREY
JOSEPH LELEUX  35  LADIES SCHOOL   F (FOREIGN PARTS)
ELIZA        "         30                              N (NOT BORN IN COUNTY)
ALEXANDER "       7                                Y (BORN IN COUNTY)
ELIZA         "         3                                Y
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