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Re: John Hogg and Helen/Ellen Cairns
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 15 October 06 23:41 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Well, if it's his DC, then his parents were William Hogg and Agnes (or possibly Helen) Robertson.
Everything on his DC seems to tie up except his wifes first name, so as JustJean suggested (and I completely agree), I think the wife and mothers name might be reversed. I'm sure I've seen a BC for a child to a William Hogg and Agnes Robertson, but can't seem to find it again.

thanks,
Alan
Scotland: Bell, Bond, Doig, Hogg, Houston, Howson, James, Melville, Murdoch, Paton, Pennycook, Smillie/Smellie, Strain, White
England: James
Wales: James
Ireland: Hogg, Murdoch
USA: Melville, White
Australia: Houston, Howson
Canada: Houston, Pennycook

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Re: John Hogg and Helen/Ellen Cairns
« Reply #10 on: Monday 16 October 06 08:15 BST (UK) »
At the moment I can only find one William Hogg that is the right age to be John's father. Unfortunately I don't have the name of his wife.

William Hogg, father of Rankin Hogg born c1810 farmer living at Gortin Mayoughill townland in Aghadowey 1850. Rankin Hogg is still living at Gortin Mayoughill in 1859 (Griffith's Valuation) so it looks like a) his father William was already dead or b) father was living somewhere else. In 1831 Census there is no Hogg (head of household) at Gortin Mayoughill.

Not enough information to find family of your John Hogg in Scotland but will keep an eye out for you here.

P.S. Ellen more often found in Ulster while name is written as Helen in Scotland. Also, Agnes and Nancy are interchangable here but Nancy is also used for Ann/Anne.
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: John Hogg and Helen/Ellen Cairns
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 05 October 10 07:50 BST (UK) »
I'm trying to find parents for a John Hogg who married Helen/Ellen Cairns. I can't even find their marriage. I have found the death of Helen in Old Cumnock for 1893, but can't seem to find anything else.

John & Helen had at least 4 children from what I can see....
James Hogg b. Abt 1848 in Catrine, Ayr  - married Sarah Meginess.
David Hogg b. 22 Mar 1856 in Auchinleck, Ayr.
Helen Hogg b. Abt 1853 (IGI Search has mothers name as "Cains"?)
William Hogg (signed mothers death record)

Any help would be greatly appreciated!


TIA,
Alan

I don't know if this post is still going but my name is Liz and I live in Australia. John Hogg & Ellen Cairans are my Great Great Great Grandparents. James Hogg and Sarah McInnes are my Great Great Grandparents. My mother is a Hogg. Are you researching because you are related or out of interest.
Baxter: Lanarkshire, Slamannan
Jordan: Lanarkshire, Staffordshire
McFarlane: Lanarkshire
Mitchell: Ireland to Scotland, Canada & New Zealand
Farrell: Lanarkshire, Ireland, New York
Fagan: Lanarkshire, Ireland
Hogg: Lanarkshire, Ireland

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Re: John Hogg and Helen/Ellen Cairns
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 05 October 10 11:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Liz,

John and Ellen are also my GR-GR-GR-Grandparents. My Gran was a Hogg.
I've already been in touch with a Carmel from Australia, any relation to you?

If you're interested, I can give you access to my Family Tree website (it's password protected), which may include some of your family too.

regards,
Alan
Scotland: Bell, Bond, Doig, Hogg, Houston, Howson, James, Melville, Murdoch, Paton, Pennycook, Smillie/Smellie, Strain, White
England: James
Wales: James
Ireland: Hogg, Murdoch
USA: Melville, White
Australia: Houston, Howson
Canada: Houston, Pennycook


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Re: John Hogg and Helen/Ellen Cairns
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 05 October 10 12:53 BST (UK) »
Hi Alan,

I am so glad you replied.

Not sure about Carmel, but then again my tree is expanding at every turn. Would love to see your tree as it would seem we could be related. Please PM me the details. I have a tree but I have no idea how to load it to the net.

My Great Great Great Grandfather is John Hogg
My Great Great Grandfather is James Hogg
My Great Grandfather is David Hogg
My Grandfather is Samuel Hogg

Does this line up with you????
Kind regards
Liz
Baxter: Lanarkshire, Slamannan
Jordan: Lanarkshire, Staffordshire
McFarlane: Lanarkshire
Mitchell: Ireland to Scotland, Canada & New Zealand
Farrell: Lanarkshire, Ireland, New York
Fagan: Lanarkshire, Ireland
Hogg: Lanarkshire, Ireland

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Re: John Hogg and Helen/Ellen Cairns
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 05 October 10 17:48 BST (UK) »
And your mother is Irma?
If that's right then I didn't realise you were so closely related. My Gran (Nellie) was the sister of your Grandfather Samuel. My dad was very friendly with your mums brother David!

I'll send the website details via private message.

Alan.
Scotland: Bell, Bond, Doig, Hogg, Houston, Howson, James, Melville, Murdoch, Paton, Pennycook, Smillie/Smellie, Strain, White
England: James
Wales: James
Ireland: Hogg, Murdoch
USA: Melville, White
Australia: Houston, Howson
Canada: Houston, Pennycook

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Re: John Hogg and Helen/Ellen Cairns
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 05 October 10 23:37 BST (UK) »
Well I'll be!!!! Yes that would be my mother. Glad to have you on board. Uncle David still lives in Scotland.

Liz
Baxter: Lanarkshire, Slamannan
Jordan: Lanarkshire, Staffordshire
McFarlane: Lanarkshire
Mitchell: Ireland to Scotland, Canada & New Zealand
Farrell: Lanarkshire, Ireland, New York
Fagan: Lanarkshire, Ireland
Hogg: Lanarkshire, Ireland