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Offline Jed Stu

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Please can you help find John Kettlewell b c1870? (of Whixley, Yorkshire) and his family:

Please can someone have a look through the 1841 - 1901 censuses for Kettlewell & is it possible to find Sarah\Mary's real identity and her family?
It's probably impossible!

John’s mother was adopted as a baby by a Mrs Kendall of Kirk Hammerton, Yorkshire:
Mother’s name was either Sarah or Mary

Sarah \ Mary - Surname unknown.
married
Richard Kettlewell - of Whixley

Their children:-

Mark m. possibly married a Laura?
Enoch m. Agnes ? lived at Scotland Mill, Adel, Leeds, Yorkshire
Arthur m. Annie ?
John m. Isobel Simpson
Laura m. Joe Burns - one daughter Betty
There is a sister in-law that fits in somewhere in Saskatewan, Canada – Laura? maybe?

Can their Canadian family be found too?

Only other clues
John & Sarah\Mary Kettlewell  in 1912 approx’ lived at Bywater Farm, Adel, Leeds
they were Farmers \ Horse Breeders
John Kettlewell had his best horses taken from him for use in the Great War, this ruined John and he died not long after and his wife Sarah\Mary went to the work house.. (Golly it was tough in those days.)

Many thanks,
Jed
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Re: 1841 - 1901 census returns reqd please for adopted Sarah\Mary & John Kettlew
« Reply #1 on: Monday 09 October 06 14:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Jed
You've got lots of requests here making it a bit confusing ??? :D

First off have you found John in 1881? This available to search free at
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/default.asp

I can only see one Whixley John born c1874 parents John and Ann There is a John born 1870 in Howden with mother Mary.

Where did you get his mother's name from? And father's name? How do you know his mother was adopted? Have you found her on censuses?

Jan ;)
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buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
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derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
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Re: 1841 - 1901 census returns reqd please for adopted Sarah\Mary & John Kettlewell
« Reply #2 on: Monday 09 October 06 14:55 BST (UK) »
HI

Is this him in the 1881 census at  New Lane Bowers Farm, Rothwell


Richard Kettlewell 1842 Whixley Farm Labourer
Mary Ann ""        1847  Whixley
Mark      """""       1874   """""
Asa   """""""""     1876   """""
John """"""""""   1878 Chapel Allerton



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Blakeley in Batley West Yorks
Turner in Hanging Heaton West Yorkshire
Dann last known area Soothill West Yorks
Hirst in Hanging heaton W Yorks
Moss in Morley and Leeds
Parker in Morley W Yorks
Parker in Hull E Yorks
Tilburns in Morley W Yorks

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Re: 1841 - 1901 census returns reqd please for adopted Sarah\Mary & John Kettlewell
« Reply #3 on: Monday 09 October 06 15:06 BST (UK) »
HI


1891 Living at New lane Middleton,

Rich* Kettlewell Farm Labourer 1842 bn Whixley
Mary """""""""                            1848 """""""""
Asa                                             1876"""""""""
John                                            1878 Chapeltown
Herbert                                       1883 born Middleton
Edith                                          1882 """""""""""""
Laura                                         1885""""""""""""
Arthur                                        1887 """"""""""""





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Blakeley in Batley West Yorks
Turner in Hanging Heaton West Yorkshire
Dann last known area Soothill West Yorks
Hirst in Hanging heaton W Yorks
Moss in Morley and Leeds
Parker in Morley W Yorks
Parker in Hull E Yorks
Tilburns in Morley W Yorks


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Re: 1841 - 1901 census returns reqd please for adopted Sarah\Mary & John Kettlewell
« Reply #4 on: Monday 09 October 06 15:18 BST (UK) »
Hi

This is Richard Kettlewell in the 1871 census at Whixley, Great Ouseburn

Jane Kettlewell   bn Schlinghall? Yks 1806
Thomas               bn Whixley 1841
Richard               bn Whixley 1842
Charlotte            bn Whixley 1854
Mary Hudson Granddaughter 9months old Broxa? Yks


No street address shown


Wendy


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Blakeley in Batley West Yorks
Turner in Hanging Heaton West Yorkshire
Dann last known area Soothill West Yorks
Hirst in Hanging heaton W Yorks
Moss in Morley and Leeds
Parker in Morley W Yorks
Parker in Hull E Yorks
Tilburns in Morley W Yorks

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Re: 1841 - 1901 census returns reqd please for adopted Sarah\Mary & John Kettlewell
« Reply #5 on: Monday 09 October 06 15:21 BST (UK) »
Hi

1861 Richard is away from home in Green Hammerton working as a Carter for a John Daniels who is a Farmer of 80acres

Wendy
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Blakeley in Batley West Yorks
Turner in Hanging Heaton West Yorkshire
Dann last known area Soothill West Yorks
Hirst in Hanging heaton W Yorks
Moss in Morley and Leeds
Parker in Morley W Yorks
Parker in Hull E Yorks
Tilburns in Morley W Yorks

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Re: 1841 - 1901 census returns reqd please for adopted Sarah\Mary & John Kettlewell
« Reply #6 on: Monday 09 October 06 15:26 BST (UK) »
Hi

In the 1851 census we find him with both his parents living at Clockhill Field Farm

His father is Thomas bn circa 1804 Whixley


There are others in the household shold you want them.



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Blakeley in Batley West Yorks
Turner in Hanging Heaton West Yorkshire
Dann last known area Soothill West Yorks
Hirst in Hanging heaton W Yorks
Moss in Morley and Leeds
Parker in Morley W Yorks
Parker in Hull E Yorks
Tilburns in Morley W Yorks

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Re: 1841 - 1901 census returns reqd please for adopted Sarah\Mary & John Kettlewell
« Reply #7 on: Monday 09 October 06 15:29 BST (UK) »
HI

In the 1841 they have mistranscribed as Hellewell.

Living in Whixley

Wendy
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Blakeley in Batley West Yorks
Turner in Hanging Heaton West Yorkshire
Dann last known area Soothill West Yorks
Hirst in Hanging heaton W Yorks
Moss in Morley and Leeds
Parker in Morley W Yorks
Parker in Hull E Yorks
Tilburns in Morley W Yorks

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Re: 1841 - 1901 census returns reqd please for adopted Sarah\Mary & John Kettlewell
« Reply #8 on: Monday 09 October 06 15:41 BST (UK) »
Hello Wendy & Jan, firstly - sorry Jan if the posting is confusing.

I tried to arrange 'all known facts' and hope that there's a clue or two in there somewhere.

Wendy, thanks lots. You have them now and it's possible that Richard Kettlewell's middle name could be JOHN. (I've just been told - after relaying your finds).
So, I'd hoped the children's names would be the clue to their parents and I believe Whixley village is the home of my Kettlewell's, which was my only other clue.

The Kettlewell's & children must head for Scotland Mill, Adel, Leeds in the late 1800's and I think their house attached to the Mill, it was hit by lightening, and the Mill burnt down soon after, but not sure if the lightening was the cause of it! That was 1901'ish

Thank you very much Wendy for your help and 'yes please' to anything & everything in relation to finding out about the Kettlewell family and their children and family.

I really would like to see - all the available information, especially if there could be some clues to Mary's adoption as a baby and her mother Mrs Kendall of Kirk Hammerton - what do you think?

Many thanks & kind regards,
Jed
WALES
Edwards, Jenkins, Rees, Phillips, Thomas, Westphal:
Bridell, Cardiff, Cenarth, Clydey, Eglwyswrw, Llanboidy, Llanfairnantgwyn, Llantood Pem
ENGLAND
Agg, Craddock, Hayward, Heges, Hunt, Pains: Northleach, Coln St Dennis, Gloucestershire

Bradby, Bradly, Hill, Thorp: Preston Candover Hants, London
Collins: Radford Notts
Gunther, Norton, Roberts, Rohlederer: Liverpool, Manchester, Cheshire, Yorks
Mitchell, Pells, Roberts, Sinclair, Thorp, Trery: LONDON
Smith : Felsham, Gedding SUFF