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Re: My Vanishing CARDON family, can you help ?
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 20 August 08 05:09 BST (UK) »
 It appears from paperspast that a T Cardon from Waiuku was in the army or local militia, if this is your guy maybe he went to the Sth Africa War ?

 I think maybe its time to buy a few certs, definitely Marthas (for her parents and possibly where she is buried) and  Berthas marriage certificate to confirm parentage.

 Those school records that Bren found are good, but need some certs to make sure.

 and the paperspast (Sthn Cross) have a number of Cardon hits all Waiuku. Pity it ends before Marthas death.

 and just another thought, one of the paperspast items was a farming contest, and a J CARDON won the drainage test.

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Re: My Vanishing CARDON family, can you help ?
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 20 August 08 05:40 BST (UK) »
they had a son John G/C Cardon  dob and pob unknown ( have seen transcribed both ways) 

Another son was born John Frederick Cardon (Frederick) who was a miner in Waihi, his burial record states he was born in Waiuku 1866 c. He died Waihi 1914, no known wife or children,( his probate details available above message)he also shows in the 1893 Elec Roll. His death Notice states the following ( so I know that there was definatley a first son- not born in NZ)

Herald, 2nd September 1914.

On August 26th, at Waihi Hospital, John Frederick Cardon, 2nd son of the late Thomas and Martha Cardon of Waiuku, in his 48th year.

Now Thomas, Martha and son num1 seem to have vanished into thin air, there are no probates for them, and I cant locate any burials.


as both these boys "appear" to have been named John, it is more than likely that the first son "John" died as a child - perhaps before they came to NZ

-quite usual in Scottish families where there might be 3 or even 4 attempts to get a living child to carry on the name....



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Re: My Vanishing CARDON family, can you help ?
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 24 August 08 09:47 BST (UK) »
Thankyou so much you are all brilliant  ;D
Saunders/Sanders,Owen,Owens,Darrach,Wilson, Cardon,Gurney,Edwards, Holmes,Smith, Ohlson,Homewood,Shaw,Semple,Merrill,Smithyman,McCallum,Winslade,Morton,Hill,Donahoe,Inglis, Moore, Morgan, Lawrence/Laurence, Owen, Owens, Skelton,Steele, Caldwell, Wood, Parish,Read,Donaldson, Hill,Farren,Carnley, Bradford, Dugard, Lindsell, Restall, Plus many many more surnames, varied countries

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Re: My Vanishing CARDON family, can you help ?
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 26 August 08 09:33 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Is anyone able to locate a birth c1901, for Elina/Elma Pauline Lenton Cardon/Carden, I have her marriage entry.

Cheers
Del
Saunders/Sanders,Owen,Owens,Darrach,Wilson, Cardon,Gurney,Edwards, Holmes,Smith, Ohlson,Homewood,Shaw,Semple,Merrill,Smithyman,McCallum,Winslade,Morton,Hill,Donahoe,Inglis, Moore, Morgan, Lawrence/Laurence, Owen, Owens, Skelton,Steele, Caldwell, Wood, Parish,Read,Donaldson, Hill,Farren,Carnley, Bradford, Dugard, Lindsell, Restall, Plus many many more surnames, varied countries


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Re: My Vanishing CARDON family, can you help ?
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 26 August 08 10:14 BST (UK) »
Hi Del

Marriage entry as per KiwiBren

Elina Pauline Lenton CARDON   1923  Folio #07813  to  Richard Roland McCRYSTAL

Burial  of both

http://www.purewa.co.nz/search.asp

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Re: My Vanishing CARDON family, can you help ?
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 26 August 08 11:24 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Is anyone able to locate a birth c1901, for Elina/Elma Pauline Lenton Cardon/Carden, I have her marriage entry.
Cheers
Del

They can't be Thomas and Marthas kids,  if they are related they must be Johns or Henrys and Henry ain't for sure yet.

I would get Marthas death cert and verify the number of kids, as well as getting her parents.    :)

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Re: My Vanishing CARDON family, can you help ?
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 27 August 08 06:35 BST (UK) »
Hi all,

In the past week I have met a family member of mine, and can confirm the following.

Children of Martha & Thomas

John G, born ?
Elizabeth Kate, born usa
John Frederick, born nz
Annie Jane, born nz
Henry Madinson, born nz
Bertha May, born nz
Henrietta Edith Lenton, born nz

Now the plot thickens

On the deth reg entry it gives Marthas cause of death 10 Jan 1879 as Exhaustion From Child Birth 1 day,

I query on whether this child lived or died there is no record? perhaps Elina/Elma Pauline lenton Cardon was the last child and I have my dates out, as I thought she was a grandchild too? I have lso found a child of Annie's before she married.

Any ideas ?

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Del
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Re: My Vanishing CARDON family, can you help ?
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 27 August 08 13:52 BST (UK) »

 So you have Marthas death certificate  ?

 Where is she buried  ?

 Have you been to library or do I need to check for Henrietta and Pauline ?

 Are we still looking for Thomas ?

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Re: My Vanishing CARDON family, can you help ?
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 28 August 08 02:18 BST (UK) »
Hi Del

NZ Birth:
1877: CARDEN, Henrietta Edith Lenton, 129, Mar ¼, Awhitu
No birth registered in 1879 for a CARDEN/CARDON

No sign of a death for Thomas up to 1950.
So, did he leave the country…..??

Waikumete Burials:
Henry Madinson CARDON, 74, 1945

The reference for this death is 1271, Jun ¼, Avondale

Bren.