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My Vanishing CARDON family, can you help ?-COMPLETED-
« on: Sunday 08 October 06 21:34 BST (UK) »
My mysterious vanishing Cardon family........

Thomas Cardon married his wife Martha and at some point lived in (Pike) Illinois USA, they had a son John G/C Cardon  dob and pob unknown ( have seen transcribed both ways) and a daughter Elizabeth Kate (Kate) Cardon born 1861 circa Illinois, USA.

I have posted on other boards chasing up some research ideas that I had, with some results (unconfirmed) if anyones interested. See here-

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,187221.0.html

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,187048.0.html

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,187216.0.html


The family immigrated to NZ on the Ship Matoaka, which departed London, ENG and arrived NZ 03/01/1865, as part of the Waikato immigration scheme. ( Elizabeth Kate's future husband and inlaws were also on board George Thomas Holmes they married NZ, 6 August 1879 at the Holy Trinity Church Waiuku) I have held to now in not buying Elizabeth Kate Cardon  and George Thomas Holmes marriage cert ( money is tight this time of year) but perhaps someone can check and see if theres a intent to marry notice please.

Both families settled around the Waiuku area. Thomas Cardon shows on the NZ 1881 Elec Roll as a carpenter living in Toro Point , Waiuku. & 1893 Elec roll he appears as an Engineer at Tuakau, Franklin district, his wife Martha was not on the 1893 roll.

Another son was born John Frederick Cardon (Frederick) who was a miner in Waihi, his burial record states he was born in Waiuku 1866 c. He died Waihi 1914, no known wife or children,( his probate details available above message)he also shows in the 1893 Elec Roll. His death Notice states the following ( so I know that there was definatley a first son- not born in NZ)

Herald, 2nd September 1914.

On August 26th, at Waihi Hospital, John Frederick Cardon, 2nd son of the late Thomas and Martha Cardon of Waiuku, in his 48th year.

I have been contacted by a person who believes his ancestor was a sister to Elizabeth Kate, but I have yet to proove this, so there may also be 2 other daughters Henrietta Edith Lenton Cardon & Elina/Elma Pauline Lenton Cardon. ( I have some details for these two) Henrietta married in Gisborne, NZ so if she is related, perhaps the family went there ? There is also a Henry Madison Cardon that keeps popping up in my searches, I am trying to find out if he is connected or not.

Now Thomas, Martha and son num1 seem to have vanished into thin air, there are no probates for them, and I cant locate any burials. I tried mailing the Franklin council for a cemetery search, nothing came up, even with a alternate spelling of  Carden. Where did they go and what happened to son num 1, surely he must have died young or left NZ at a young age, I have had no luck with passenger lists right across the board( apart from the ship Matoaka)

Elizabeth Kate Holmes nee Cardon lived her life and died and was buried in Waiuku. Her husband died 1896 she never remarried, Some time after this she purchased a home in Pacific Street, Waiuku. From Walter Smith in which she operated a  maternity home. ( George & Kate Holmes had 8 children, and this Holmes line is well documented)

If anyone can offer a fresh perspective or help me out, I would greatly appreciate your imput.

Cheers
Del
Saunders/Sanders,Owen,Owens,Darrach,Wilson, Cardon,Gurney,Edwards, Holmes,Smith, Ohlson,Homewood,Shaw,Semple,Merrill,Smithyman,McCallum,Winslade,Morton,Hill,Donahoe,Inglis, Moore, Morgan, Lawrence/Laurence, Owen, Owens, Skelton,Steele, Caldwell, Wood, Parish,Read,Donaldson, Hill,Farren,Carnley, Bradford, Dugard, Lindsell, Restall, Plus many many more surnames, varied countries

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Re: My Vanishing CARDON family, can you help ?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 19 August 08 07:40 BST (UK) »
 ;)

Just bouncing back to this family line, if there are any new people on the board who may be able to help.

Del
Saunders/Sanders,Owen,Owens,Darrach,Wilson, Cardon,Gurney,Edwards, Holmes,Smith, Ohlson,Homewood,Shaw,Semple,Merrill,Smithyman,McCallum,Winslade,Morton,Hill,Donahoe,Inglis, Moore, Morgan, Lawrence/Laurence, Owen, Owens, Skelton,Steele, Caldwell, Wood, Parish,Read,Donaldson, Hill,Farren,Carnley, Bradford, Dugard, Lindsell, Restall, Plus many many more surnames, varied countries

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Re: My Vanishing CARDON family, can you help ?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 19 August 08 23:20 BST (UK) »
Hi Del

Just working on exact spelling for the time being, here are a few bits and pieces that may be of some use.

John Frederick CARDON b 14 May 1866, Waiuku

Possible siblings…..
1879 Waiuku School Records showing Parent/Guardian as Thomas CARDON:
Annie, dob 26 Jul 1870
Henry, dob 9 Sep 1871
May
(it is POSSIBLE that there might have been another Thomas CARDON with children)

Waikumete Burials:
Henry Madinson CARDON, 74, 1945
Barry Henry Madinson CARDON, 72, 2005

There is also a Divorce record for Henry Madinson @ Archives Auck which should have a copy of the original marriage cert, which in turn will give you the parent’s names, to be able to rule him in or out....….

So father Thomas was dead by 2nd September 1914, but mother Martha presumably still alive….

The only CARDON marriages that show are:
Elina Pauline Lenton – 1923 - McCRYSTAL
Elizabeth Kate – 1879 - HOLMES
Henrietta Edith Lenton – 1915 - WRIGHT
Henry Madinson – 1928 - SHEAHAN
Marsden Reid – 1939 - COLLINGS
Mona Kennedy – 1918 - MacKINNON
Mona Kennedy – 1953 - LYON

(NB the 1st marriage for Henry Madinson must have been in another country BEFORE 1928 as the divorce papers are in the date range 1925-1926)


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Re: My Vanishing CARDON family, can you help ?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 19 August 08 23:35 BST (UK) »
Hi Del

Quite a few random hits for CARDON 1865-1920 which might help to build up a picture of who was around at that time....

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast


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Re: My Vanishing CARDON family, can you help ?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 19 August 08 23:51 BST (UK) »
It would be worth you doing a lookup in 1896 Electoral roll to see if Martha is still alive and on that one..apparently a lot of women missed out on the the first roll in 1893. JUst to try and find out when they stopped appearing on the rolls.


I was loking at your past postings to see the probate for the son that died in Waihi, but couldn't find right thread, did the parents get mentioed, ?still alive, who purchased his grave site? Just to try and narrow down timeframe of whe they died..

BYe
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Re: My Vanishing CARDON family, can you help ?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 20 August 08 02:45 BST (UK) »
Births rego,

1866    John Fred CARDON               Drury         [139]
1869    Annie Jane CARDON              Auckland    [191]
1871    Henry CARDEN                     Drury         [268]
1873    Bertha May CARDON            Awhitu       [1462]

Deaths

 Martha CARDON              1879           Awhitu   [49]


Electoral roll:

 Thomas is on 1900 roll for Franklin,   but not,  1902, 1905, 1908

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 Checked deaths from 1870-1914, no sign of Thomas or any other Cardon or Carden
 apart from Martha and Frederick .

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 When Martha died the kids were quite young 6-13, must have been tough or maybe John looked after them.

Searched Awhitu and Waiuku cemeteries, no sign, did a fairly intense search of all the names at Waiuku looking for possible mistakes, but no one popped out.
   

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Re: My Vanishing CARDON family, can you help ?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 20 August 08 03:35 BST (UK) »

 and now we have,

 Bertha May CARDEN  m William John PELLOW     1893

 Annie Jane CARDEN  m James SMITH       1910


Seems that maybe Carden is the original spelling or its swapped regularly.

Can ONLY find Thomas CARDENs on the freebmd for 1837-1840 births.

 I like the look of the PELLOW, gotta be an easy one to follow up.

 

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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 20 August 08 04:35 BST (UK) »

and this could be the daughter of the above marriage OR the widow re-marrying….

1915 Folio Ref: 07110
Bertha May PELLOW
John Dixon BIRKETT




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Re: My Vanishing CARDON family, can you help ?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 20 August 08 04:55 BST (UK) »

1919 Electoral Roll, Wellington East
John BIRKETT
Bertha May BIRKETT

John Dixon BIRKETT:
http://www.wellington.govt.nz/services/cemeteries/search/details.php?id=4141&Service=Cremation

given the age and therefore probable dob, he is of a similar age to Bertha May CARDEN…..