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Re: Can anyone identify this Location
« Reply #45 on: Friday 06 October 06 23:55 BST (UK) »
I don't think it's a wedding picture.

I do think that it is 3 generations....maybe 4 of one family....Grandmama and Grandpapa......Mater and Pater.....and Alice and Bertie.....or is it Hermoine and Cyril? I can't remember!! The little girl maybe a grandaughter.

I do think it is a "big house" and I do think that the famly are farmers of some description...look at the shoes....you can almost see the horse muck.

I think it is wonderful.




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Re: Can anyone identify this Location
« Reply #46 on: Saturday 07 October 06 09:00 BST (UK) »
My grandfather wore flowers on every occasion. I remember him having a small device for holding water that fitted behind his button hole so that the flower - a rose or carnation - would stay fresh longer, he was just a keen gardener. But yes they do look to be dressed in their Sunday best although not as the bridal party. The younger men are wearing 'field' clothes, but I don't think it is farming. More like the stuff worn for a day out cycling but without the bicycle clips, and before someone picks up on that I am NOT suggesting that that is what they were doing.

It was common for parties to 'dress up' i.e. beyond their station, just to have photos taken. The artist Stubbs was posing the people in his paintings like that a hundred years earlier.

Tassles - I have seen similar on the hilts of swords but I don't know the significance.

I wasn't sure about the flower on the man on the left he looks to have shiny buttons and I thought the 'flower' may have been a badge ???
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Re: Can anyone identify this Location
« Reply #47 on: Saturday 07 October 06 23:23 BST (UK) »
Hi Andy,

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The photo looks like where my ancestors were from,but I bet they didn't know people like that!!

I wouldn't be too surprised if members of your family were on this photo!
It was most certainly taken for an occasion of some kind and I have a feeling they were wearing their "Sunday best" clothes.
I wonder if the older couple are related at all to the younger members - it is only just a feeling but the dress code to me looks quite working class.
I have photographs of my farming great-grandparents taken at the turn of the last century. One, taken quite naturally on a working day, the other in their finest, believe you me they both scrubbed up very well. I would have been hard pressed to put them into a social class if I didn't know better.

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Re: Can anyone identify this Location
« Reply #48 on: Sunday 08 October 06 02:52 BST (UK) »
Hi

The area could also be the north wiltshire/north somerset/south gloucestershire area (i.e the area surrounding bath) by the dry stone walls. The area is littered with dry stone walls like the one in your picture, also the area is particularly hilly as is suggested by your picture.

However it looks unlikely that you could pin the area down with the few clues available.

Good Luck!

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Re: Can anyone identify this Location
« Reply #49 on: Sunday 08 October 06 08:14 BST (UK) »
I think we should stick with what we have got and not get too far afield if we don't need to. All the background history points to West Yorkshire.
We can narrow down the search by using the direction of the sun and the time of year. various clues like clothing give the time of year as summer. If anyone can identify the flowers in the forground grass then we might get even closer.
The length of the shadows and the photo subject suggests afternoon therefore  the shadows are pointing roughly North / North East. Now take a contoured map and mark on the possible places within the previously defined area i.e. North of Leeds South of Skipton.
Have a look at the man on the left. He is not wearing a flower, that would be in his lapel. He has either an handkerchief in his breast pocket or a badge on there. If it is a badge then he is wearing some type of civilian uniform. I shouldn't think there are too many who wear that type of uniform jacket.
He is holding a cane that would be pretty useless for walking support, it is more like the ones used by school teachers, but of course teachers don't wear uniforms. or did they ?
Bland, Greenwood Bland, Ellis, Benn, Woodhead, Priestley, Illingworth, Lightowler, Platts, Boys, Bradley, O'Hara, Hall<br /><br />Areas -  North Bierley, Northowram, West Bowling, Horton, Shelf, Allerton, Queensbury, Haworth, Ovenden, Halifax, Luddenden, Midgley, Elland, Littleborough

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Re: Can anyone identify this Location
« Reply #50 on: Sunday 08 October 06 09:30 BST (UK) »
If anyone can identify the flowers in the forground grass then we might get even closer.

Have a look at the man on the left. He is not wearing a flower, that would be in his lapel. He has either an handkerchief in his breast pocket or a badge on there. If it is a badge then he is wearing some type of civilian uniform. I shouldn't think there are too many who wear that type of uniform jacket.
He is holding a cane that would be pretty useless for walking support, it is more like the ones used by school teachers, but of course teachers don't wear uniforms. or did they ?

I agree it seems to be Yorkshire, not Wiltshire - although you do see similar landscapes there. However, the stone in the walls is too dark to be Wiltshire stone, even in black and white you can see a difference in shade.

The flowers look like something small, maybe celandines or daisies.

I don't think a teacher would have worn a uniform, or dressed like the man in the photo. There were two teachers in my family around that time and I have never seen photos of either dressed like that. In fact, there is a pic of one with his class, taken around 1901, and in it he is wearing a very formal suit.

To me the man in photo is dressed more along the lines of a master of hounds - some still wear a modern variation of that outfit.

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Re: Can anyone identify this Location
« Reply #51 on: Sunday 08 October 06 11:54 BST (UK) »
Gosh, I can't keep up with all this information and the theories!!!  :o ;)

I have had a much longer look at your photo, Andy, and I am revising my date estimate to 1900-1905.  I am basing this mostly on the lady on the left, her clothes look the most up to date and she does seem very fashionable :)

I don't think they are particularly upper-crust people...they could be working folk, dressed in their sunday best, or lower-middle-class. 

Agree your man at left is holding what looks like a hunting whip, but there is no thong attached to the pointy end, so I don't think that's what it is.  It is probably a cane but it's a very fine one.

I don't think the tassles on the older gent's brolly are of any particular significance.  Maybe it's just his Sunday-best brolly!

Still can't help you with a location, but Yorkshire seems to be the odds-on favourite by the looks of things  ;D

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Re: Can anyone identify this Location
« Reply #52 on: Sunday 08 October 06 12:16 BST (UK) »
This thread is rapidly beginning to qualify for the "How many genealogists does it take to ..." thread, or even "Mountain out of a molehill"

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Re: Can anyone identify this Location
« Reply #53 on: Sunday 08 October 06 12:39 BST (UK) »
I know, but it is good isn't it?

I'm now at the stage where I am nodding at the computer and agreeing with everyone!  ;D ;D

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