1841 look up please.

[pettsy]

Can someone please help?

I am looking for Mary Ann Bradley, and her father Benjamin on the 1851 census.

In 1846 Benjamin job looked like a "ROLLER"?
And in 1875 he was a Bricklayer.
I don't know his wifes name.

Thank you.

Pettsy

[indiapaleale]

This looks like them:

Aston, Warwickshire
Adderley St. Court 3
Benjamin Bradley 35 Labourer Yes
Mary Bradley 30 Yes
Mary 15 Screw Maker Yes
Sarah 13 Yes
Emma 10 Yes
Benjamin 7 Yes
Betsy 4 Yes
Henry 2 Yes
HO107/1148/3 Folio 27 Page 4

[pettsy]

Thank you Indi 

I will copy it next week when I go to FRC.

At last I have a name for Mary Ann's mother.

Pettsy

[pettsy]

Hi again,
Could you please see if you can find the family in 1851 or 1861 please?
Thank you so much for all your help.

Pettsy

[indiapaleale]

HI,
1851

Aston, Deritend
Glover St.
48 Court 5
Benjamin Bradley Head 44 Labourer,
Mary Bradley Wife 40 At Home
Benjamin Son 18 Labourer
Betsey Dau 15 Pearl Button Maker
Henry Son 13 Rope Spinner
Isaac? Son 11 Rope Spinner
Joseph Son 7
John Son 4
George Son 5mths

All born Warwickshire, Deritend

HO/107/2060 Folio 66 Page 60

1861 to follow

[indiapaleale]

1861

Mary is a widow.....a Benjamin Bradley died Birmingham - Dec Q 1857 6d-31....could be your chap.

Birmingham, St. George
Macdonald St.
Court 4 H
Mary Bradley Head Wid 50 Warwickshire, Deritend
Joseph Son 17 Brickmaker Warks, Birmingham
John Son 14 Brickmaker Warks, Birmingham
George Son 10 Warks, Birmingham
Richard Ray? Lodger 52 Labourer Warks, Sutton Coldfield
RG9/2162 Folio 14 Page 22

Will look for the other children when I get back from shopping 

[pettsy]

Thank you Indi 

That is great.
More children every census, where do they get their energy ?

Oh not another Lodger.
From experience, I have had 4 widows marry the lodger or next door neighbour.
Is this number 5 

Happy shopping   

Pettsy

[indiapaleale]

I think that this is Henry the son...in 1861

Birmingham, St. Thomas
116 Latimer St. South
Thomas Claythorn Head Wid 62 Labourer Birmingham
Henry Bradley Visitor 24 Brassfounder Birmingham
Harriet Bradley Wife 24 Birmingham
Henry Bradley Son 5 Birmingham
RG9/2136 Folio 110 Page 17

So - I wondered if Thomas Claythorn(sp)  was maybe Harriets Papa ...and he is!

Henry Bradley married Harriet Crathorn on August 1 1853.....but Yikes that would make both Henry and Harriet only 15 years old! So - I don't know what to think!

I will dig some more in a while
Cheers,
India

[indiapaleale]

Well Pettsy....this gets very interesting!

1871

Henry Bradley Head 44 Brassfounder Birmingham
Betsey Bradley Wife 39 Birmingham
Henry Bradley Son 15 Birmingham
Thomas Bradley Son 7 Birmingham
Henry Craythorne Son in law 17 Brassfounder Birmingham
George Craythorne Son in law 15 Brassfounder Birmingham
Alfred Craythorne Ditto 13 Ditto Birmingham
Joseph Craythorn Ditto 11 Birmingham
Arthur Craythorn  Ditto 9 Birmingham
Charles Craythorn Ditto 7 Birmingham
Betsey Craythorn Dau in law 5 Birmingham.
RG10/3104 Folio 112 Page 10

What is going on?

Well......It would seem that Harriet (Crathorn) Bradley died....June Q 1869 (born about 1837) Birmingham 6d-19.

Henry then married Harriet's brother's widow!......Betsey Crathorn.

Henry Bradley married Betsey Crathorn Dec Q 1870 Kings Norton 6c-744.

In 1861 Betsey Crathorn is married to Alfred Crathorn

Checking the IGI we find that Harriet and Alfred Crathorn (and other children) are the children of Thomas and Obedience Crathorn.....

Sooo...even with all the mis-spellings....I would be pretty sure that Henry Bradley married his sister in law.

It's odd that he added 10 years to his age in 1871....but maybe he didn't wan't anyone to know that he was younger than his wife.

Anyway....I now have a headache and must lie down.......hehehehehehe

Families...aren't they fun???

Cheers,
India