Henry Jamieson Thompson where?

[duckweed]

I'm stuck.  I got the birth and marriage certificate for Herbert Thompson born in 1905 Brightside Sheffield and got his parents names Mabel Chisholme Storer and Henry Jamieson Thompson.  Mabel is from Bedfordshire and I found her birth and that she was in Brightside in 1901.  I found marriage details in Derby in 1902 but I can't find Henry anywhere except there and in the 2 certificates I have.  Where has he come from?  Mabel was born in 1875 so I would suppose Henry would be born about that time but every site I look for him comes up blank.  In 1905 he was a stoker on the railway in Sheffield.  Anybody help me?

[jorose]

Do you have the marriage certificate? Address/Occupation/Age/Father/Father'soccupation from that?

You might want to look for his birth in the Scottish records as well.

[duckweed]

I've already tried Scottish records, no joy.  It looks like I will have to get the Derby Marriage certificate for Henry and Mable because the only Henry J I can think might be possible is one who was born in Wath on Dearne who is a railway porter but I can't find out for sure till I go to the GRO index and see if it comes up. 

[heathergil]

Henry Jamieson Thompson was actually born in Scotland in 1878 when his mother was visiting there but the family lived in Warton near Lancaster.  He was a farm servant at the age of fourteen but by 1901 had moved to Sheffield and was a stoker on the railway.  I am currently trying to find a death record as I know he died in 1920 or 21. One record I sent for Vol 9C Pg.440 Line 132 is not him.  What is your interest?

[duckweed]

His birth was registered at Lancaster and his baptism was at Warton so do not understand where you get Scottish Birth from.
 His father Stephen Thompson was a Quarryman and died before Harry was born. It is a mystery to me as to why he claimed Scottish Birth & certainly his grand-daughter believed he was Scottish. All I can think of is that as his father died before he was born he somehow decided he was Scottish. There are a number of strange entries in the Thompson family such as his mother claiming her Uncle as father in marriage certificate. Her father's surname is listed in earlier Scottish census records and I can only assume she was covering up her illegitimate birth. I have had Harry's birth in Warton confirmed by other close Thompson relatives since my initial enquiry.

I too haven't found his death certificate. Unfortunately my original sources of information including my mother in law have since died. There are still relatives in and around Lancaster but we have lost links with them for some time now. 

[rosie99]

I can see the baptism at Warton in 1877
9 Sep 1877 St Oswald, Warton Nr Lancaster
Henry Jamieson Thompson
Parents Stephen Thompson & Mary
Abode Warton
Fathers occupation Labourer

I am not seeing the Lancaster/Lancashire birth registration though 

The Northampton Mercury 1st September 1916 has him sentenced to 4 months hard labour for theft.

[duckweed]

I knew he had been sacked from the railway for theft but not exact circumstances.

[rosie99]

Could this be his death
June qtr 1921   
Henry J Thompson    age     43   
Wortley    9c   341

Wortley reg district covers this area 
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/wortley.html

Have you found his widow in 1939 

[rosie99]

Which is his birth registration Duckweed