St. Andrew (Worcester) - KIME or Kyme

[JonLowther]

I am trying to track down any information in the parish registers for the following person

Name:                Charlotte Knight (nee Kime or Kyme)
Married to:         John Knight
DOB:                  approx 1873/4
Date of death:   7th January 1900
Place of death:  1 Pheasant street, Worcester. St Andrew parish (worcester)

I have not been able to trace any BMD or census records for her, soI have hit a brick wall. I am hoping that things like parish records may provide a bit more information, and if I can find a gravestone this may provide more info.

[CaroleW]

Hi

Although she died in Worcester - she may not necessarily have been born there.

Also - she was 36 when she died so birth year is 1863/64 not 73/74

[JonLowther]

Sorry my mistake about the date. I typed it incorrectly.     Thanks for double checking.

I have searched on Ancestry.co.uk and the National Archives web site, and I can't seem to find any Charlotte Kimes in census/birth/marriage records between 1863/4 and 1900.  Maybe she was not from the UK and got married abroad ?!?!

Since she died in the parish of St. Andrews in Worcester I was hoping that the parish records may have some info about her. Possibly her gravestone would have more info?!?

It's strange because Kime is not a very common name so I thought I would find things easily.

[netti]

St Andrews has no churchyard with stones...infact no church left either just the spire - very tall and sharp known locally as the glover's needle.

A burial in that period probably took place at Astwood Cemetery - burial records available to search at Worcester History Centre. Then you will need to contact the cemetery to find out where exactly the grave is so you can look for a headstone.

I have had success in the past - they gave me a map which enabled me to find one of mine. The cemetery is huge!

do you have the death certificate - was it unusual and possibly reported in the local press?

how do you know she was previously Kime? Perhaps she was already widowed when she married John?

just thinking out loud!


regards

netti

[JonLowther]

Thanks for the info about the church and cemetry.

Charlotte Knight gave birth to my wifes grand-father on 1st January 1900. On the birth certificate the mothers name is Charlotte Knight (formerly Kime).

Unfortunately, on the 7th January 1900 (seven days after giving birth) she died. I have her death certificate and the cause of death was acute pneumonia. I expect it was related to the childbirth the previous week. 

I also thought that she might have been married before, and that might explain why I can't find her marriage certificate for her second marriage. If Kime was her maiden name then it would have changed to something else after her first marriage. Since I don't know what it changed to then I can't find the marriage to John Knight.

However, if Kime was really her maiden name then I'd expect to find a birth certificate in around 1863/4. She might have been born somewhere else. I've checked the Scottish BMD index.

Unfortunately, her husband (John Knight) has quite a common name so it is difficult to find his birth or death, so I was hoping that their marriage certificate would give me some clues.

[netti]

have you got John on a census to pinpoint his place of birth?

[Joe !!!]

I found something to do with this last night but dismissed it because of the age and I cant remember what or where 

Joe

[JonLowther]

No I can't seem to find John Knight on the census. The name is a bit too common and it returns hundreds of entries. 

I was hoping the marriage certificate might narrow it down a bit (fathers name, location etc).

I have just found a Charlotte Kyme who was married in 1883. The index gives me a page number and volume but it doesn't tell me who she married. I then went to see if a John Knight was married at the same time and if the page number and volume matched. Do you know if this is a good way of checking (other than ordering a copy of her marriage certificate)??  Would they both have the same page number and volume??

[Joe !!!]

I found Charlotte on one of the cencus last night and im desperatly tring to find it again.
I Found the marriage but thought you already had it

Will keep looking

Joe