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Re: "Exiles" transported to Port Phillip 1845-1849
« Reply #54 on: Tuesday 06 November 07 21:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi Robyn,

He definitely did survive, as another chap on this site has passed me a Bibliography he has written on Charles for the PhD he is doing.

I have PRO Victoria index records for the birth of his children and death records as well.  So now I am trying to research the area they were born and died in.  Unfortunately, none of his children lived very long, so it looks like we don't have any decendants to find.  Such a shame, but at least I can fill in details for Charles now on the family tree.

Thanks for your help and good luck with your research.

Chris :D
Masters - Somerset, South Wales
Gregory - Scotland, Islington London, Buckinghamshire and South Wales
Prosser - South Wales
Bennett - Somerset and South Wales
Hesketh - Scotland, Lancashire, Westminster London
Daly - London and Ireland
Harding - London
Sleeper - London
MacAllister (McAllister) - Pangbourne, Berks & New Zealand
Vair - Roxburgh, Scotland & Canada

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Re: "Exiles" transported to Port Phillip 1845-1849
« Reply #55 on: Tuesday 06 November 07 22:38 GMT (UK) »
Hello  there

you  say  you  have  records  for  his  childrens  births?

Now  can  you  pass  on  these details  and  also  was  he married  in victoria .  There  is a  possible death  for him  but would  like  you to  give  us a  bit  more information  please. 
also  was  it always spelt Hesketh


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He definitely did survive, as another chap on this site has passed me a Bibliography he has written on Charles for the PhD he is doing.

re  this statement  Tony  who  started  this  thread is  doing  his  Phd  on  the Parkhurst boys!
kind regards Jenn
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Re: "Exiles" transported to Port Phillip 1845-1849
« Reply #56 on: Tuesday 06 November 07 23:16 GMT (UK) »
OK Jenn - here goes:

Chas Hesketh (the many Charles in the Westminster Hesketh line are call "Chas")
Death: 1899
Place: Apsley
Reg # 11780
Victoria Fed Index 1889-1901

George Hesketh
Born: 1856
Place: BYONG (Buninyong)
Reg # 1680
Victoria Pioneer Index 1836-1888
Father:  Charles
Mother: Ellen

George Hesketh
Death: 1856
Place: VIC
Reg # 1045
Father: Charles
Mother: Ellen
Age 7 days
Victoria Pioneer Index 1836-1888

Charles Henry Hesketh
Borne: 1858
Place: Pleasant C (Creek) - now Stanwell
Reg # 8139
Father: Charles
Mother: Ellen
Victoria Pioneer Index 1836-1888

Charles Henry Hesketh
Death: 1858
Age 1 day
Reg # 4727
Father: Charles
Mother: Ellen
Victoria Pioneer Index 1836-1888

Ellen Hesketh - Birth Place: Ireland
Death: 1858
Age 26
Reg # 4726
Father: James Hughes
Mother: Bridget
Victoria Pioneer Index 1836-1888

Elizabeth Hesketh
Death: 1870
Age 16
Place: VICT
Reg # 8040
Father: Charles
Mother: Ellen
Victoria Pioneer Index 1836-1888

I cannot find a marriage record for Charles & Ellen, or a birth record for Elizabeth (born c 1854). 

From research I understand that "The State of Victoria was known as the Port Phillip District of New South Wales prior to separation on 1 July 1851."  Charles would have finished his "term" as an apprentice to a local employer around December 1850, so I think my next port of call is the NSW early records. 

What do you think?

Chris



Masters - Somerset, South Wales
Gregory - Scotland, Islington London, Buckinghamshire and South Wales
Prosser - South Wales
Bennett - Somerset and South Wales
Hesketh - Scotland, Lancashire, Westminster London
Daly - London and Ireland
Harding - London
Sleeper - London
MacAllister (McAllister) - Pangbourne, Berks & New Zealand
Vair - Roxburgh, Scotland & Canada

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Re: "Exiles" transported to Port Phillip 1845-1849
« Reply #57 on: Wednesday 07 November 07 00:54 GMT (UK) »
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ur research is facinating and I wonder if you can point me in the right direction to try and find out what happened to Charles, if he married, had children, where he lived and if there are any descendants.

I hope you can help.

Hello  there Chris

I  am  now  a  bit  confused  with  this.  Re  your orginal request.  It would seem  you  did  have  most  of  the  information  to  hand  by  your  latest  reply.

A  download  for  one of the children's  births  may include where and  when  the parents  married  also  if  this particular Charles Hesketh  is  you  man  because  it should say  where he  is from etc.  Charles  is abbreviated to Chas on  the federation  index.

regards Jenn
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SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
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Re: "Exiles" transported to Port Phillip 1845-1849
« Reply #58 on: Wednesday 07 November 07 01:27 GMT (UK) »
Yes, it looks like it, but had a private e-mail from "annie" in the common room who sent me these extracts as she has the CD-ROMs just after I posted, but did not get round to looking at this info in detail until UK Tuesday pm.

I hope I haven't wasted any of your time :-\, but everything has happened so fast over the last 2 days. 

Tony's info has been great, as it has confirmed what I have seen on the index and he also filled in some holes about Charles before he set sail for Australia.  Tried to buy images of all the certs, but only index images available.

Am still searching for Charles and Ellen marriage and birth of daughter Elizabeth.  Have traced Charles on a map from arrival at Port Phillip 1846 - to Buninyong (just south of Ballarat) in 1856 - next to Pleasant Creek (now Stawell) in 1858 - to finally Aspley where he died in 1899.  I think Charles might have been chasing the gold strikes, but after reading some stuff on the I/Net it was very tough in these places at that time.

 :'( Sorry again, hope I haven't cheesed you off, but thank you anyway.

Chris



Masters - Somerset, South Wales
Gregory - Scotland, Islington London, Buckinghamshire and South Wales
Prosser - South Wales
Bennett - Somerset and South Wales
Hesketh - Scotland, Lancashire, Westminster London
Daly - London and Ireland
Harding - London
Sleeper - London
MacAllister (McAllister) - Pangbourne, Berks & New Zealand
Vair - Roxburgh, Scotland & Canada

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Re: "Exiles" transported to Port Phillip 1845-1849
« Reply #59 on: Wednesday 07 November 07 03:16 GMT (UK) »
Hello  there
Chris  no  I  am  not cheessed  off  only  too  happy  to  help
you  buy  the images  from  the Victoria  BDMs  on  line and download  from  it for 17.50 a copy
Victorian BDM index online

long link to
http://online.justice.vic.gov.au/CA256C7100199CBE/OrigDoc/~1542E3A9C6B6BE3DCA256C72001CAE6E?OpenDocument&1=13-Index+Search~&2=10-Index+Categories~&3=~
(free to search, AUS$0.99 to view each page)

regards Jenn
When you search for ancestors, you find great friends!
I live in Townsville researching
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SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.au

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Re: "Exiles" transported to Port Phillip 1845-1849
« Reply #60 on: Wednesday 07 November 07 23:39 GMT (UK) »
 :D Hallo Jenn,

Went to the site to try and get images of all the certificates, but only images of the index available.  Message displayed:

"Original record is missing from the register.  No image or certificate can be issued."

So looks like I'm out of luck.

Chris
Masters - Somerset, South Wales
Gregory - Scotland, Islington London, Buckinghamshire and South Wales
Prosser - South Wales
Bennett - Somerset and South Wales
Hesketh - Scotland, Lancashire, Westminster London
Daly - London and Ireland
Harding - London
Sleeper - London
MacAllister (McAllister) - Pangbourne, Berks & New Zealand
Vair - Roxburgh, Scotland & Canada

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Re: "Exiles" transported to Port Phillip 1845-1849
« Reply #61 on: Thursday 08 November 07 00:58 GMT (UK) »
Chris,

I have only been able to locate the same Hesket etc.)  individuals as yourself on the BDM CD's using all types of wild card searches.

I have also looked at both NSW and Tasmania without success.

On the IGI I found a maraige for a George Heskith to an Ann about 1824 in Lancashire. Would be worth you looking at it.

It is not unusaul to find that many early records for Victoria are missing.  Perhaps lost in fires and floods before they could be centralised for compilation by the officials. (several in my lines of research alone all have death records though!!!! no births and often no paents maraiges pre 1857)

good luck Robyn in Wodonga
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Greenaway:Cornwall
Edney, Godwin/Goodwin, Gullett:Hampshire;
Gullett:Devon
Emms:39th Regiment of Foot 1810-1832
Gordon:Scotland
Arnold, Morton:Ireland
Davies:Wales
Olcorn:Cumberland
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Re: "Exiles" transported to Port Phillip 1845-1849
« Reply #62 on: Thursday 08 November 07 01:18 GMT (UK) »
Chris,

Ooops, my aplogoes the marriage was George Hesketh b c 1799 to Mary Appleton on 22 February 1824.

Submitted by a LDS memeber in fact there are two different entries for this marriage.

bye

Robyn in Wodonga
The following families and their Australian decendents:
Abbott, Barnard, Clarke, Inward, Lanfear, Rutter,Spencer:Middlesex
Greenaway:Cornwall
Edney, Godwin/Goodwin, Gullett:Hampshire;
Gullett:Devon
Emms:39th Regiment of Foot 1810-1832
Gordon:Scotland
Arnold, Morton:Ireland
Davies:Wales
Olcorn:Cumberland
Osborne:Staffordshire
Harrington:Kent
&
Gross: Tullau Wurtmemburg Germany