Hi Amondg
This william !840 is the son of william and Hannah who was in the work house with his sister Eliza 1834 and both his parents in the 1851 census. The are related to Ellen and Harriett but are not their parents. Their parents are William 1838 and Margret 1838. Isn't it annoying when families all pass down the same christian name and they are born with a similar birth date! Thanks for the info I had not yet researched his death.
Mike