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Re: I need help please!!!
« Reply #9 on: Monday 25 September 06 00:02 BST (UK) »
You have been busy  ;D

Be a little cautious in accepting the 1901 William Thompson as "yours" he is shown as single, different occupation (bricklayer), this ties in with the William at home with parents Thomas and Martha in 1891 and his age would have been 60 in 1927  :-\ Your William could have died before Betsey got together with James Burgess.

Sorry, more pondering for you  ???

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Susan
Herefordshire: Mytton.
Lincs: Ingham
Northants: Knight (Welford); Linnell;  Gaudern.
Staffs (Brierley Hill, Kingswinford): Wood; Eades.
Somerset: Bailey; Lewis
Warwickshire: (Alcester, Henley in Arden) Lewis; Casey/Keasey
Warwickshire (Birmingham suburbs) Knight
Yorkshire (Bradford):  Ingham


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Re: I need help please!!!
« Reply #10 on: Monday 25 September 06 01:05 BST (UK) »
Yes, that part is still niggling me somewhat, particularly as I know that Joseph SPROSTON's wife Mary, with whom William boarded, is also the daughter of Thomas and Martha THOMPSON.

I sort of came to the conclusion that if it were in fact Thomas and Martha's William living with them, then surely the census would state his relationship to the Head (Joseph) as brother-in-law? The fact it states "boarder" gives me a small glimmer of a chance it could well be my William, but without certificates to prove anything it remains inconclusive for now.

I'm currently working on Henry's parents (I must get some sleep soon!) as I've managed to find 1841 census details for him, and it appears they moved to Manchester (Moss Side) at some point as I've found his mother Mary there on 1881 census - very intriguing!
Baker, Thompson, Lomas, Ikin - Middlewich, Cheshire; (Baker) Stockton, Durham
Fradley, Hall, Weaver, Pargeter - Stone, Staffordshire; Middlewich, Cheshire
McGuin, Gallagher, Bogan, McKew - Huddersfield, Bradford, Yorkshire; Nottingham; Bacup, Rochdale, Lancashire; Ireland
Mellor, Lammyman, Pearson - Huddersfield, Dewsbury, Wakefield, Hull, Yorkshire
Connelley, Little, Walker, Starkey - Cleckheaton, Dewsbury, Bradford, Yorkshire; Co Monaghan, Ireland

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Re: I need help please!!!
« Reply #11 on: Monday 25 September 06 17:39 BST (UK) »
Have found a death for William Thompson, so sad only 31  :(

William Thompson  31  1894 Sep. qtr.  Northwich  Vol. 8a  page 160

Wonder if the other William's father Thomas and your William's father Henry are brothers?  Must be some relation being from the same place.


Susan  :)



Herefordshire: Mytton.
Lincs: Ingham
Northants: Knight (Welford); Linnell;  Gaudern.
Staffs (Brierley Hill, Kingswinford): Wood; Eades.
Somerset: Bailey; Lewis
Warwickshire: (Alcester, Henley in Arden) Lewis; Casey/Keasey
Warwickshire (Birmingham suburbs) Knight
Yorkshire (Bradford):  Ingham


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Re: I need help please!!!
« Reply #12 on: Monday 25 September 06 18:55 BST (UK) »
I don't think that's my William as the age is wrong, he would only have been 27 in 1894, but thanks for looking for me and I certainly won't be ruling it out yet. The year of death certainly fits as it's a couple of years after Evelyn was born.

Yes, you are quite right in that Thomas and Henry are brothers which makes both the Williams cousins, and both born in the same year too just to make life harder! I just knew there had to be a connection somewhere - could feel it in my bones, along with some other rather weird happenings recently which I won't go into here ;)

Their parents were Sam(ue)l THOMPSON b.1804 and Mary (possibly BALL) b. 1806 but I'm struggling to find many details for them, other than the 1841 census which lists their children as Henry, Hannah, Samuel, William, Thomas and John and living in Leadsmithy Street, which fits elsewhere, so I'm pretty certain I have the right family.

Peter Bennet from this forum very kindly checked Cheshire marriages pre-1837 for me and found a possible match for a Samuel THOMPSON and Mary BALL in 1823 at Middlewich St Michael & All Angels, so that looks very hopeful.
Baker, Thompson, Lomas, Ikin - Middlewich, Cheshire; (Baker) Stockton, Durham
Fradley, Hall, Weaver, Pargeter - Stone, Staffordshire; Middlewich, Cheshire
McGuin, Gallagher, Bogan, McKew - Huddersfield, Bradford, Yorkshire; Nottingham; Bacup, Rochdale, Lancashire; Ireland
Mellor, Lammyman, Pearson - Huddersfield, Dewsbury, Wakefield, Hull, Yorkshire
Connelley, Little, Walker, Starkey - Cleckheaton, Dewsbury, Bradford, Yorkshire; Co Monaghan, Ireland


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Re: I need help please!!!
« Reply #13 on: Monday 25 September 06 19:10 BST (UK) »
What's more, I think Henry and Thomas also married sisters - Elizabeth and Martha LOMAS! Then there's members of each family marrying into the SPROSTON'S - talk about keeping it in the family! ;D
Baker, Thompson, Lomas, Ikin - Middlewich, Cheshire; (Baker) Stockton, Durham
Fradley, Hall, Weaver, Pargeter - Stone, Staffordshire; Middlewich, Cheshire
McGuin, Gallagher, Bogan, McKew - Huddersfield, Bradford, Yorkshire; Nottingham; Bacup, Rochdale, Lancashire; Ireland
Mellor, Lammyman, Pearson - Huddersfield, Dewsbury, Wakefield, Hull, Yorkshire
Connelley, Little, Walker, Starkey - Cleckheaton, Dewsbury, Bradford, Yorkshire; Co Monaghan, Ireland

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Re: I need help please!!!
« Reply #14 on: Monday 25 September 06 19:31 BST (UK) »
Have found a death for William Thompson, so sad only 31  :(

William Thompson  31  1894 Sep. qtr.  Northwich  Vol. 8a  page 160


Right, I've done some double checking and found that my William was actually born in 1863 and not 1867 as I'd got in my notes (that's the other William) so yes this does indeed appear to be him :(

I've also found a death for Betsy in 1906, aged just 34 too. They both died so young :(

Many thanks for all your help with this Susan :)
Baker, Thompson, Lomas, Ikin - Middlewich, Cheshire; (Baker) Stockton, Durham
Fradley, Hall, Weaver, Pargeter - Stone, Staffordshire; Middlewich, Cheshire
McGuin, Gallagher, Bogan, McKew - Huddersfield, Bradford, Yorkshire; Nottingham; Bacup, Rochdale, Lancashire; Ireland
Mellor, Lammyman, Pearson - Huddersfield, Dewsbury, Wakefield, Hull, Yorkshire
Connelley, Little, Walker, Starkey - Cleckheaton, Dewsbury, Bradford, Yorkshire; Co Monaghan, Ireland

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Re: I need help please!!!
« Reply #15 on: Monday 25 September 06 22:00 BST (UK) »
You're welcome  :)

It is sad they died so young, I don't suppose the job that William had was a healthy one.

After Thompson the Sproston name is so unusual should be relatively easy for you  ;)

Regards

Susan

Herefordshire: Mytton.
Lincs: Ingham
Northants: Knight (Welford); Linnell;  Gaudern.
Staffs (Brierley Hill, Kingswinford): Wood; Eades.
Somerset: Bailey; Lewis
Warwickshire: (Alcester, Henley in Arden) Lewis; Casey/Keasey
Warwickshire (Birmingham suburbs) Knight
Yorkshire (Bradford):  Ingham


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Re: I need help please!!!
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 26 September 06 10:47 BST (UK) »
Being useless, I can't type links to other threads and such.  But back in July 05, I posted a thread on the Cheshire board "Did you ancestor work as a Chemical labourer or alkali worker ?".  Because I had found an interesting website "homestead.com/lucys_jigsaw/BM.html" (link no longer works)
which proved useful for me as my husbands ancestor had worked for the company and she did have some relevant records for me.  Maybe she has some employment records of your ancestor.  She does have Thompson listed amongst her surnames.

Siouxzie

Maybe some clever person can post a link to that thread?
Greenwich, London-BEARMAN/JOHNSON/GREENE Barking Essex-BEARMAN
Manchester- NEWALL/Newell or variants, LOLLEY/Lolly,WALL
Shropshire- WALL
Cheshire- MADDOCK/CARTER/PERCIVAL
Windsor, Berkshire - MILES
Buckinghamshire - MILES
Monmouthshire - JAMES & MORRIS
Herefordshire- FLEET
Yorkshire- SHIPLEY & GRAY
Sussex- EDWARDS & KNIGHT
Wiltshire/Hampshire-WATERS
Wolverhampton area Staffordshire- ASTON
Staffordshire- LOLLEY

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Re: I need help please!!!
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 26 September 06 18:14 BST (UK) »
Hi Siouxzie

here's the thread link

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,71624.0.html

Susan  :)

Herefordshire: Mytton.
Lincs: Ingham
Northants: Knight (Welford); Linnell;  Gaudern.
Staffs (Brierley Hill, Kingswinford): Wood; Eades.
Somerset: Bailey; Lewis
Warwickshire: (Alcester, Henley in Arden) Lewis; Casey/Keasey
Warwickshire (Birmingham suburbs) Knight
Yorkshire (Bradford):  Ingham


Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov