John FULLER 1881 Census

[damikinch]

The comment by Mary A to keep an open mind regarding Edward and Warlingham may turn out to be prophetic.

Birth Registered.
Edward Albert FULLER,Godstone,Sept Qt,1882,Vol 2A,Page 191

Warlingham is within Godstone Reg.Dist.


This may be further reinforced by a Marriage Registration.
Edward Albert Fuller,Croydon,Dec Qt,1903,Vol 2A,Page 500.
The only other name on the FreeBMD page is Eliza PITT.

There are several other possibilities for these siblings marriages at Croydon.

Hope this helps.

Dave.

[MaryA]

OK this is going to sound daft but bear with me and hopefully you will see where I'm coming from.

Birth of Esther Emma Farrice March qtr 1877 Godstone 2a 196
Birth of Annie Elizabeth Farrissee September qtr 1878 Godstone 2a 85
Birth of Charles William Farriss_ June qtr 1880 Godstone 2a 191

1881 census
The Alley, Warlingham, Surrey
Jeremiah Farasee Head M 25 Farm Labourer Kent
Eliza M Farasee Wife M 22 Surrey Warlingham
Esther E Farasee Daur 4        " "
Anne E Farasee daur 2          " "
Charles W Farasee Son 10 months " "
Joseph Belton Lodger Unm 34 Farm Labourer " Mersthane
RG11/ 806; Folio: 16; Page: 26

Death of Jeremiah Farrissee September qtr 1881 Godstone Surrey 2a 93 Age about 26

Marriage of Eliza Mary Farrisee to John Fuller June qtr 1882 Croydon 2a 334

Only problem now is that I can't find a marriage to Jeremiah to Eliza Mary, but then you might be able to get over that problem by ordering one of the certificates, either marriage of John or birth of one of the children.

Mary

[patrish]

Wow Mary you really have come up trumps, I can see where you are coming from, no wonder I couldn't find a birth for Esther Fuller

Patrish

[MaryA]

Update -
Marriage of Eliza Mary Rhodes to Jeremiah Pharisee December qtr 1876 Croydon 2a 332

1871
The Alley, Warlingham, Surrey
William Roads Head M 66 Ag Lab On the Sea
Emma Wife M 48 Surrey Lumpsfield
Frederick Son 13 Shepherd's Boy Surrey Warlingham
Mary daur 11 Scholar                        " "
Matilda daur 7       " " "
RG10/838; Folio: 63; Page: 8

1861 Barracks, Warlingham
William Rodes Head M 56 Ag Labourer Wotton Surrey
Emma Wife M 39 Surrey Lumpsfield
Ann H daur 14 " Chelsham
William Son 17 Carter Ag Lab " "
Edward Son 11 Scholar " Warlingham
James Son 8 " " "
Frederic Reuben Son 4           " "
Eliza Mary daur 1                    " "
RG9/446; Folio: 165; Page: 19

So at last in a census confirmation that Eliza and Mary are both one and the same!

[MaryA]

Phew now I'm going for a lie down!

[MaryA]

My gut feeling is that this would be Jeremiah in 1861, despite giving Kent as his birthplace later, but only because I can find no other to fit and the name and age is perfect.

Titsey, Surrey
List of Persons not in Houses in Tatsfield Parish
Log Hut
Patrick Pharisee Head Mar 45 Ag Lab Ireland
Nosia Wife M 40 Ireland
Daniel Son 8 Scholar "
Jeremiah Son 5           "
Catherine daur 2        "
/
John Barry Head Lodger Mar 43 Ag Lab Ireland
Margaret Wife Mar 35 Ireland
Michael Son 10 Dorset Poole
//
William More Head Mar 40 Ag Lab Ireland
Ellen Wife Mar 25 Ireland
William Son 2 1/4 Ireland
RG9/ 446; Folio: 152; Page: 17

although they aren't easy to find in 1871, I think maybe the parents knew how to read and write but maybe the children weren't so well educated.

This is a possible Daniel for 1871
Bugg Hill Farm House Chelsham, Surrey
Thomas and Harriet Singer and their family have lodgers including
Daniel Farace (transcribed as Faron) Lodger Unm 18 Ag Lab Tatsfield Surrey
RG10/ 836; Folio: 105; Page: 6

[eirwen]

There is a Louisa  Elizabeth Fuller born June quarter 1880 in Croyden if this is any help. Alun

[eirwen]

John Fuller born Croyden December quarter 1859. Alun.

[eirwen]

This might be your John Fuller in the 1881 census. Living as a lodger with his wife Eliza  at 54 Addington Road ,Croydon. John's ocupation is traveller . The head of the house is William Warren , painter and his wife Mary is a dressmaker. Alun