John Fraser of Inverness

[maryvb]

John Fraser was an agent for the Bank of Scotland at Inverness. He married Helen Grant, of whom I know (of think I know) quite a bit. They had a large family, including:
Anne Faser, b 1830
Isabella Fraser, b abt 1818
John Fraser, b 1818; m Charlotte Augusta Mackie 1845
These three emigrated to Canada in 1845-6 and lived in St. Thomas Ont. He was a minister. The girls married in Canada.
Hope to find out something about John Fraser (father), as well as the other siblings. Also cannot find info on Isabella's birth.

Sources consulted:
1851 and 1881 census of Ontario
Scotlands People
"Ancestors and Descendents of Alpin Grant" (gives a lot of detail, but I have no idea if it is authoritative or not)

[PatrickChat]

Hi  These are my great great grandparents.  Two other sibblings would be Jane and Helen, Isabela and John are new to me. I have a lot of work on Helen Grant and family but am looking to expand on John Fraser too. Looking foward to hearing from you!

[maryvb]

I got what little I have from an old book, that I'm not sure I trust. I haven't been able to find a thing on Isabella, but she did end up living next door to my Ann Fraser in St. Thomas in Canada, so I do believe they are relatives. And I think she was in that little old book. John Fraser was definitely Ann's brother, a minister of the church who emigrated to Canada. He married my great-grandparents.

I too have quite a bit on the Grants, but John Fraser is a brick wall for me -- there are thousands of John Frasers in Inverness. Which line are you from?  I can give you what I know of Anne and John's family.

[maryvb]

Another snippet from a book on the history of St Thomas Ontario:
"In 1849 the Reverend John Fraser, a native of Inverness, came to St. Thomas.... He is a brother of Mrs VanBuskirk (nee Ann Fraser, by great-grandmother) and of Mrs Rally (Isabella Fraser) wife of the Reverend W. Rally..." (p 108)

[MIK]

Rev. John Fraser, was married with Charlotte Augusta Mackie, daugther of Alexander Mackie (1775-1859) and Elizabeth Stuart. They came from Aberdeen, with 8 siblings and settled in Chatham. Oldest daugther, Agnes was my gggg-mother, married with Colin Elder from Skye. Charlotte lived some years at Colin Elder s house.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/ColinElderSkye.htm

Another daugther, Alexina, was married with Rev. Peter Keay.

http://www.nbgs.ca/firstfamilies/FAMILY-MA-MY-2006.pdf

Elizabeth Stuart was  daugther of Elizabeth Elder, a sister of my gggggg-father, Colin Elder Senior (1740-1826)
Miguel M. Elder

[maryvb]

Very interesting. John Fraser came to Canada with two of his two younger sisters (one being my great grandmother), and I always wondered what brought him here. I guess his wife's family had already emigrated.

My records show that John and Charlotte married in 1845 in Scotland, and emigrated almost immediately, as the first child was born in 1846 in Canada West.

Any info on John Fraser?

[MIK]

In the book "Major Alpin´s ancestors and descendants" some references about John Fraser. I suppose this is the same book you mentioned.

 HELEN, born at Borlumbeg, 22 August, 1783. She died,
April, 1842, having married, 1801, John Fraser, Agent

for the Bank of Scotland, Inverness, with issue : —

1. Donald Fraser, died in infancy.

2. Patrick Fraser

3. John Fraser, died in infancy.

4. John Fraser, born June, 1818 ; M.A., King's College, Aberdeen, 1846;
licenciate of the Church. Died in Canada, 24 September, 1893,
having married, June, 1845, Charlotte Augusta Mackie (who died 28 January,
1903), with issue : —

(1) John Fraser. Married

(2) Alexander Mackie Fraser.

(3) Alpina AGNES Fraser, born April, 1846, married, in 1870, A. C. Mann,
with issue : —

i. Hugh Campbell Mann.

ii. John James Mann.
iii. Carolina Mann.
iv. Alexandra Mann.

(4) Elizabeth Helen Stuart Fraser, born 4 September, 1850.

(5) Charlotte Fraser, Sub-editor of the Star, Montreal, died 31 May,
1896.

(6) WlLHELMlNA Fraser, married

(7) Helen Fraser, born 29 June, 1863.

5. William Fraser, died in Australia.

6. Donald Fraser, died in infancy.

7. Anne Fraser, married Robert Munro, Jamaica, with issue : —

(1)

8. Margaret Fraser, died unmarried.

9. Helen Fraser, died in infancy.

10. Alpina Fraser, died unmarried.

11. HELEN Fraser, died unmarried, 6 June, 1901.

12. May Fraser, died unmarried.

13. Mary Fraser, married D. Mackenzie, with issue : —

(1) A son who died in infancy.

(2) Mary Helen Mackenzie, married George Brodie Clark, with issue :—

i. Ernest Herbert Brodie Clark.

14. Isabella Fraser, married Rev. \V. Rally, St. Thomas, Ontario (who died
without issue).

15. Anne [Nancy] Fraser, died 21 June, 1902, having married Dr.
Van Buskirk, with issue :

(1) William Van Buskirk, C.E. ; married, with issue.

(2) May Van Buskirk, married Douglas Gerrard, with issue :

i. Douglas Gerrard.
ii. Helen Gerrard.

(3) Fanny Grant Van Buskirk, died unmarried.

(4) Anne Victoria Van Buskirk.

(5) Caroline Ruth Van Buskirk.

16. JANE Fraser, married Andrew Smith, with issue :

(1) William Grant Smith, merchant, Guadalaxara, Mexico.

(2) John Alexander Smith, M.A., Fellow and Tutor of Balliol College*
Oxford.

(3) James Ross Smith, S.S.C., Edinburgh.

(4) Alexander Patrick Smith, solicitor, Hamilton.

(5) Harriet Ann Smith.

(6) Jean Eliza Smith.

http://www.archive.org/stream/majoralpinsances00ande/majoralpinsances00ande_djvu.txt

[maryvb]

Yes, this is what I already have. Where I am able to verify the data, it seems to be pretty accurate. But there are several children listed about whom I can find nothing at all, and one or two listed in Parish recos who are not on the list.

John Fraser and Helen Grant had around 16 chuldren, but many died in infancy or died unmarried, and only a few had chidren.

Thanks

[MIK]

Unfortunately, John Fraser Sr is not under my line of investigation, but I found some reference that could be useful for your research.  In the following link, some details of a transaction involving to John Fraser, representing Bank of Scotland. A company is mentioned, Campbell, Fraser and Co. Is there some relation?


http://books.google.com.ar/books?id=noYDAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA385&lpg=PA385&dq=%22john+fraser%22+inverness+scotland+bank+agent&source=bl&ots=BjZEkH8s8T&sig=oKXEpeuOtueca8rl2HUzzH4fW6E&hl=es&ei=TP4hTI_BEIK0lQfApoRF&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CEgQ6AEwCTgK#v=onepage&q=%22john%20fraser%22%20&f=false