Elsie Pirrie/Perrie/Pirie 1852

[shearg]

I was hoping someone could help find the parents of the above person or any other info would be very helpful and greatly appreciated.

We have from census returns in Canada that she was born in Oct. 1852 in Scotland and through family lore we think it was in the Aberdeen area.

We don't know when she came to Canada but she married Obadiah Stafford in 1883 in Manitoba.

Thanks for any help,
shearg

[Gadget]

Hi Shearg

I have checked various sources and the nearest that I can find for you are the following two baptisms. I am assuming that Elsie was a diminutive.

12 July 1851       Elspet Pirie, Parents - John Pirie and Sarah Forbes in Longside
25th May 1852  Elspit Pirie, Parents - Robert pirie and Margaret Fyfe in Newhills

Both Longside and Newhills are parishes in Aberdeenshire

Do you have any idea when she went to Canada? This might help trace her on censuses.

Regards

Gadget

[J.J.]

http://www.familysearch.org
I know ancestral files aren't too reliable, but there is an entry on the LDS site that says the couple Robert Pirie ( 1812-1876) & Margaret (Fife) ( 1825 -1860 )died in Northumberland, Ontario.

There are also IGI extracted files for more children of Robert Pirie and Margaret Fyfe
ELSPIT PIRIE birth 22 MAR 1852   
JANE FYFE PIRIE - 1846
ALEXANDER FYFE PIRIE - 1848
ROBERT PIRIE - 1854
JEAN PIRIE - 1856
There are also many others listed under  Ancestral &  Pedigree Resource Files
J.J.

[J.J.]

Looking at the 1871 census for Ontario, they have Robert listed as a lot older..( age 69) This lists heads of households only, but someone may be able to do a lookup for you on the Canada board...There is a Jane working in another household Seymour Northumberland district that matches the birth age above, also...
 J.J.
http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/02010803_e.html

[shearg]

Thanks JJ for all your help. I will pass this info to my friend. I know she will be excited to learn more.

Thanks again,
shearg

[MonicaL]

Hi Shearg

This looks to be Robert and Margaret Pirie in 1851:

Robert Pirie    38, Blacksmith Employin 3 Lab, b. Old Deer, Abdnshr
Marget Pirie    25, b. Kintore, Abdnshr
Jane Pirie    4, b. Skene, Abdnshr
Alexander Pirie 2, b. Newhills
Isabella Pirie    7 Mo, b. Newhills
James Smith    36, servant Blacksmith And Ferrier
Duguid Aitken    13, house servant

Address:  Bitt Side, Newhills, Aberdeenshire

Parents' marriage/banns from the Old Parish Registers:

ROBERT PIRIE  Marriages: Spouse:  MARGT. FYFE    
Marriage: 14 DEC 1845  Skene, Aberdeen, Scotland

There is also a submitted entry for Robert's death of 1876, no location given.

Regards.

Monica

PS: Can't easily see the family in the 1861 Census - maybe they left between 1856-61 for Canada?
   

[MonicaL]

Possible birth entry for Margaret Fyfe on the Old Parish Registers (OPRs):

MARGARET FYFE     28 NOV 1826/ Christening:  03 DEC 1826  Kintore, Aberdeen, Scotland. Parents: ALEXR. FYFE    and MARGARET NICOLL

Monica 

[MonicaL]

Possible 1841 Census entry for Robert. Not with family so hard to connect to Old Deer birth place at present. He looks to have already been in the parish of Skene before his marriage to Margaret in 1845:

Robert Pirie    27, blacksmith
Peter Laing    20, blacksmith
Agnes Sivewright 10, female servant
Isobel Wilson    55, female servant

Address:  Bridgend Of Concraig, Skene

[shearg]

Thanks Monica, all this new info is great and gives my friend so much more info than she already had on her family, I know she will be so excited.
Thanks again,
shearg